valyrianshadow
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Post by valyrianshadow on Jun 26, 2015 12:59:50 GMT
Interesting. But it could be any character from Sansa to Stannis to a lesser character. I always thought Arya was safe because she's Gerogre's wife's favorite. Not that that should deter him as to who lives or dies but still. Maybe Dany? Tyrion? Could be anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 18:28:45 GMT
Interesting. But it could be any character from Sansa to Stannis to a lesser character. I always thought Arya was safe because she's Gerogre's wife's favorite. Not that that should deter him as to who lives or dies but still. Maybe Dany? Tyrion? Could be anyone. TBH I'd rather see a character I like have a good meaningful death than get kept around for nothing much important. Dont shoot me, not saying thats whats happening to Arya since those novels are unwritten and we wont know how it turns out for another two years, at least show wise. All I mean is that of the choice is between a good death, or a generic ending, then give me death damnit!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 18:33:08 GMT
I think all the main characters (original POV) are safe until the last book. My first guess would be Stannis, other possibilities might be Brienne, Jaime, Cersei, Arianne, Aegon, Jon Con, among others. He really needs to start trimming down characters, and setting up the endgame. So you don't count Jaime and Cersei as major characters? I think GRRM already knows both of their deaths, if Jaime dies. I'm pretty sure Cersei dies in TWoW. (Ned and Cat weren't safe until the last book) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 18:49:40 GMT
I think all the main characters (original POV) are safe until the last book. My first guess would be Stannis, other possibilities might be Brienne, Jaime, Cersei, Arianne, Aegon, Jon Con, among others. He really needs to start trimming down characters, and setting up the endgame. So you don't count Jaime and Cersei as major characters? I think GRRM already knows both of their deaths, if Jaime dies. I'm pretty sure Cersei dies in TWoW. (Ned and Cat weren't safe until the last book) I think most people go off the original series outline, in which George names Dany, Jon, Bran, Arya and Tyrion as the five major characters. It was leaked a while back, if you havent read it, its worth a read io9.com/grrms-original-game-of-thrones-outline-was-very-very-d-1683950199It has some spoilers, dont know if theyre all still relevant though... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 18:55:18 GMT
So you don't count Jaime and Cersei as major characters? I think GRRM already knows both of their deaths, if Jaime dies. I'm pretty sure Cersei dies in TWoW. (Ned and Cat weren't safe until the last book) I think most people go off the original series outline, in which George names Dany, Jon, Bran, Arya and Tyrion as the five major characters. It was leaked a while back, if you havent read it, its worth a read io9.com/grrms-original-game-of-thrones-outline-was-very-very-d-1683950199It has some spoilers, dont know if theyre all still relevant though... Yes I have read it. And honestly I don't care what it says. Obviously there are some similarities but many things that aren't the same (Tyrion siding with Starks, Jon-Tyrion-Arya love triangle, Dany killing Drogo for killing Viserys, Sansa having Joffrey's baby etc) IMO the fact that he says Dany, Jon, Bran, Tyrion and Arya survive means nothing. He said that almost 20 years ago. His plans have changed and we know that. Of those he listed will survive I am only sure that Bran survives. Dany is a goner, maybe also Arya. Jon and Tyrion may survive. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 19:12:05 GMT
Yes I have read it. And honestly I don't care what it says. Obviously there are some similarities but many things that aren't the same (Tyrion siding with Starks, Jon-Tyrion-Arya love triangle, Dany killing Drogo for killing Viserys, Sansa having Joffrey's baby etc) IMO the fact that he says Dany, Jon, Bran, Tyrion and Arya survive means nothing. He said that almost 20 years ago. His plans have changed and we know that. Of those he listed will survive I am only sure that Bran survives. Dany is a goner, maybe also Arya. Jon and Tyrion may survive. Oh, I only meant they survive until the ending act. I am almost certain that Jon, Arya and Dany die. Tyrion may live but Bran is most likely to survive. The only reason I think Bran and Tyrion may live is that there is some foreshadowing for this. Bran always got told that "there must always be a Stark in Winterfell" so I see him going home and Tyrion still has to find out where Whores go, which if theories are right, is Braavos. Theres no real survival foreshadowing for the others. Arya has a list of people to kill and when theyre dead? Jons entire story is about sacrafice and Dany has always seemed somewhat doomed, the last of the targaryens, alone in the world is not a good prospect. I admit that outline is old and sketchy, but some of the story must of carried over and the end result cant gave changed entirely... I think nearly all the characters we know in this story will be dead come the end of it. But these five will make it to the final act I think. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 20:09:08 GMT
I think all the main characters (original POV) are safe until the last book. My first guess would be Stannis, other possibilities might be Brienne, Jaime, Cersei, Arianne, Aegon, Jon Con, among others. He really needs to start trimming down characters, and setting up the endgame. So you don't count Jaime and Cersei as major characters? I think GRRM already knows both of their deaths, if Jaime dies. I'm pretty sure Cersei dies in TWoW. (Ned and Cat weren't safe until the last book) Yes and no. They've been around since the 1st book, but to me the major characters are the original POV'S. All the other POV'S are secondary imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 20:12:38 GMT
I have a feeling that it's Stannis. He has been doomed from the start, even Stannis himself knows that he won't have a happy ending.
Just give him a good death and I'm satisfied.. and make sure that he has no part in Shireen's eventual death..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 5:17:36 GMT
my guesses would be Theon, Stannis or Victarion
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jul 8, 2015 5:36:57 GMT
Yeah, I'm thinking Theon or Stannis. Surely he already knew how he wanted to off Cersei.
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 8, 2015 13:47:30 GMT
Yes I have read it. And honestly I don't care what it says. Obviously there are some similarities but many things that aren't the same (Tyrion siding with Starks, Jon-Tyrion-Arya love triangle, Dany killing Drogo for killing Viserys, Sansa having Joffrey's baby etc) IMO the fact that he says Dany, Jon, Bran, Tyrion and Arya survive means nothing. He said that almost 20 years ago. His plans have changed and we know that. Of those he listed will survive I am only sure that Bran survives. Dany is a goner, maybe also Arya. Jon and Tyrion may survive. Oh, I only meant they survive until the ending act. I am almost certain that Jon, Arya and Dany die. Tyrion may live but Bran is most likely to survive. The only reason I think Bran and Tyrion may live is that there is some foreshadowing for this. Bran always got told that "there must always be a Stark in Winterfell" so I see him going home and Tyrion still has to find out where Whores go, which if theories are right, is Braavos. Theres no real survival foreshadowing for the others. Arya has a list of people to kill and when theyre dead? Jons entire story is about sacrafice and Dany has always seemed somewhat doomed, the last of the targaryens, alone in the world is not a good prospect. I admit that outline is old and sketchy, but some of the story must of carried over and the end result cant gave changed entirely... I think nearly all the characters we know in this story will be dead come the end of it. But these five will make it to the final act I think. I don't think Bran will ever come back from beyond The Wall, but I do think there will eventually be a Stark in Winterfell, probably Sansa or Rickon. I do agree that those 5 make it to the final act. I think Dany dies for sure, with Arya a big maybe. The rest, I think are safe. |
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Post by river on Jul 10, 2015 3:02:48 GMT
My money's on a second-tier or even third-tier character, maybe not even a POV. Jorah, maybe.
I would be shocked if he hadn't decided whether or how Jon/Arya/Dany/Sansa/Tyrion/Bran/Rickon/Jaime/Tyrion/Cersei die a long, long time ago.
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 10, 2015 16:19:45 GMT
My money's on a second-tier or even third-tier character, maybe not even a POV. Jorah, maybe. I would be shocked if he hadn't decided whether or how Jon/Arya/Dany/Sansa/Tyrion/Bran/Rickon/Jaime/Tyrion/Cersei die a long, long time ago. I think you're right about this. I lean towards this comment to be about Brienne, honestly. (which makes me a little sad) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 20:09:51 GMT
Yeah, I'm thinking Theon or Stannis. Surely he already knew how he wanted to off Cersei. If Stannis dies in BoI in the books too, GRRM has propably already written his death. Maybe Theon too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 23:02:00 GMT
Gonna be Myrcella because no one cares.
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Post by arthucus on Nov 3, 2015 0:52:52 GMT
If Arya dies, George's wife will leave him. |
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Post by Madeleine on Jan 23, 2016 12:39:51 GMT
Highly doubt it's either Sansa or Arya. Cersei won't die until Tommen's death, whenever that is. So, other contenders... Brienne - in danger, will probably make a deal to get out of it. Margaery - her death would be the push for the Tyrell brothers to go in and wage war against the Lannisters and the Faith, if that's the direction GRRM wants to go in. Likely. Melisandre - doubtful. getting rid of a highly magical character who could combat the Others seems silly to me. Still plausible, but I think TWOW will see Melisandre do incredibly disgusting things. Asha - very worried. This is more instinct, than anything. Shame, I really like her. Arianne - will probably die in an extremely brutal way. Same goes for the Sand Snakes- with the exception of Sarella and Nymeria. Daenerys - should survive until the War For Dawn. Fat Walda -  Shireen -  Stoneheart - I feel her arc still has a lot to go, imo. Doubt it. Jeyne Poole - would love for her to be reunited with Sansa, but that's too happy. Really hope she isn't a sacrifice once she reaches the Wall Val - will die a brutal death probably. Same with Alys Karstark. Damn, TWOW will be a bloodbath... EDIT: Roslin Frey - BWB would definately link her with the Red Wedding, and would be more harsh and think she is linked to Edmure's situation of a hostage. It really looks bad for her Jeyne Westerling - Will probably escape. Still very doubtful about her chances, maybe the BWB will capture her. She's definately not going to remain a captive, that's for sure. The Riverlands is a really nasty place, its hard not to think about the fates of characters with anything but skepticism. |
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