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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 19:21:49 GMT
I can't wait for FTW, a shocking and depressing event will be a nice change of pace.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 19:25:02 GMT
I am scared to death about FTW. Don't be scared. Sam told us he always comes back!  |
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Post by Enid on Jun 11, 2015 19:27:05 GMT
I can't wait for FTW, a shocking and depressing event will be a nice change of pace. Yeah, this season has been way too optimistic. Almost a comedy  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 19:27:42 GMT
I can't wait for FTW, a shocking and depressing event will be a nice change of pace. I know, right! The entire season has been so upbeat and positive. |
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on Jun 11, 2015 19:37:32 GMT
The showrunners managed to get rid of all the even slightly positive plots (Manderly and the North conspiracy, BwB and LSH, the possible Tyrell conspiracy, Stannis as a guy we can root for, Sansa being safe with plans we have hope to actually work, Aegon raiding the Stormlands) and made some plots even more depressing. This season is being harsh to the viewers
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 19:40:00 GMT
And according to GRRM, the Winds of Winter will just make everyone cry, so I guess we shouldn't be expecting a happy next season either.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 19:45:09 GMT
The showrunners managed to get rid of all the even slightly positive plots (Manderly and the North conspiracy, BwB and LSH, the possible Tyrell conspiracy, Stannis as a guy we can root for, Sansa being safe with plans we have hope to actually work, Aegon raiding the Stormlands) and made some plots even more depressing. This season is being harsh to the viewers I don't consider LSH to be a positive plot (which is why I like it so much). Nor Manderly or Stannis because Manderly's going to turn on Stan and there'll be even more disorganization up in the North when the WWs show up. In the same Sansa and Aegon's parts in LF and Varys's respective plans threaten to send Westeros even deeper into war and chaos. If those are GrrM's moments of hope, then they'll be short-lived when he pulls the rug out from under all of us. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 19:57:12 GMT
The showrunners managed to get rid of all the even slightly positive plots (Manderly and the North conspiracy, BwB and LSH, the possible Tyrell conspiracy, Stannis as a guy we can root for, Sansa being safe with plans we have hope to actually work, Aegon raiding the Stormlands) and made some plots even more depressing. This season is being harsh to the viewers The main counterbalance to that all season has been Jon, who has been much more heroic than he was in the books. Of course that's going to go to shit too in the end. I think this is going to end up being the darkest season quite easily. Kind of the bottoming out before the redemption. After this season, there's no way things aren't going to get better for Sansa. Arya is going to start her revenge tour. Dany will invade Westeros with her coalition. The Bolton's are going to get fucked up (if that doesn't happen next episode). Sure, the White Walkers are going to invade, but people banding together against them is going to be very positive. |
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Post by mattpeto on Jun 11, 2015 19:57:24 GMT
And according to GRRM, the Winds of Winter will just make everyone cry, so I guess we shouldn't be expecting a happy next season either. Did he say that recently? |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 11, 2015 20:28:52 GMT
The showrunners managed to get rid of all the even slightly positive plots (Manderly and the North conspiracy, BwB and LSH, the possible Tyrell conspiracy, Stannis as a guy we can root for, Sansa being safe with plans we have hope to actually work, Aegon raiding the Stormlands) and made some plots even more depressing. This season is being harsh to the viewers I don't consider LSH to be a positive plot (which is why I like it so much). Nor Manderly or Stannis because Manderly's going to turn on Stan and there'll be even more disorganization up in the North when the WWs show up. In the same Sansa and Aegon's parts in LF and Varys's respective plans threaten to send Westeros even deeper into war and chaos. If those are GrrM's moments of hope, then they'll be short-lived when he pulls the rug out from under all of us.Oh, it's definitely short-lived but this is a series where you kinda need false hope just to keep slogging through, there has to appear to be some light at the end of the tunnel, even if it's just an illusion. I hope Dany going back to her Dothraki roots and Sansa/Theon's escape can do something to lift the mood up. |
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on Jun 11, 2015 20:38:44 GMT
The showrunners managed to get rid of all the even slightly positive plots (Manderly and the North conspiracy, BwB and LSH, the possible Tyrell conspiracy, Stannis as a guy we can root for, Sansa being safe with plans we have hope to actually work, Aegon raiding the Stormlands) and made some plots even more depressing. This season is being harsh to the viewers I don't consider LSH to be a positive plot (which is why I like it so much). Nor Manderly or Stannis because Manderly's going to turn on Stan and there'll be even more disorganization up in the North when the WWs show up. In the same Sansa and Aegon's parts in LF and Varys's respective plans threaten to send Westeros even deeper into war and chaos. If those are GrrM's moments of hope, then they'll be short-lived when he pulls the rug out from under all of us. It may be short-lived, but it is something. The show has nothing. Jon Snow is the perfect hero but we all know he will "die" next episode. And LSH is positive in the way of punishing bad guys, I understand what you said but I think you didn't get my point. The books has the villains in a more fragile position and has more characters in the position of doing something against them, the show is absolutely hopeless bar Daenerys. I am not criticizing the show if that is what you think, they chose certain paths which workes fine in TV but this season has been way too dark for my own taste. We had rape, flaying and a father burning his child for fuck's sake. And with no "good side" retribuition. Come on you can love the show as much as you want but you have to admit the situation seems way too hopeless, specially for show only viewers (which we kind of all are now, I guess) |
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Post by Admin on Jun 11, 2015 20:52:14 GMT
I don't consider LSH to be a positive plot (which is why I like it so much). Nor Manderly or Stannis because Manderly's going to turn on Stan and there'll be even more disorganization up in the North when the WWs show up. In the same Sansa and Aegon's parts in LF and Varys's respective plans threaten to send Westeros even deeper into war and chaos. If those are GrrM's moments of hope, then they'll be short-lived when he pulls the rug out from under all of us. It may be short-lived, but it is something. The show has nothing. Jon Snow is the perfect hero but we all know he will "die" next episode. And LSH is positive in the way of punishing bad guys, I understand what you said but I think you didn't get my point. The books has the villains in a more fragile position and has more characters in the position of doing something against them, the show is absolutely hopeless bar Daenerys. I am not criticizing the show if that is what you think, they chose certain paths which workes fine in TV but this season has been way too dark for my own taste. We had rape, flaying and a father burning his child for fuck's sake. And with no "good side" retribuition. Come on you can love the show as much as you want but you have to admit the situation seems way too hopeless, specially for show only viewers (which we kind of all are now, I guess) LS is positive in that there is revenge for RW. The situation right now, where there has been ZERO repercussions for the series most famous event for 21 episodes now is just beyond ridiculous. With Sansa raped, Shireen burnt and Jon soon too be stabbed this like that movie Precious in terms of misery levels, all it's missing is someone throwing TV sets at newborns |
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on Jun 11, 2015 20:55:47 GMT
It may be short-lived, but it is something. The show has nothing. Jon Snow is the perfect hero but we all know he will "die" next episode. And LSH is positive in the way of punishing bad guys, I understand what you said but I think you didn't get my point. The books has the villains in a more fragile position and has more characters in the position of doing something against them, the show is absolutely hopeless bar Daenerys. I am not criticizing the show if that is what you think, they chose certain paths which workes fine in TV but this season has been way too dark for my own taste. We had rape, flaying and a father burning his child for fuck's sake. And with no "good side" retribuition. Come on you can love the show as much as you want but you have to admit the situation seems way too hopeless, specially for show only viewers (which we kind of all are now, I guess) LS is positive in that there is revenge for RW. The situation right now, where there has been ZERO repercussions for the series most famous event for 21 episodes now is just beyond ridiculous. With Sansa raped, Shireen burnt and Jon soon too be stabbed this like that movie Precious in terms of misery levels, all it's missing is someone throwing TV sets at newborns It's been 21 episodes. No repercussion. Thanks sati, you made my point clearer |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 20:56:28 GMT
Unless Roose dies on Sunday. That would be a big one.
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Post by Admin on Jun 11, 2015 21:03:06 GMT
Unless Roose dies on Sunday. That would be a big one. Only if a Stark kills him can that be a revenge for RW |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 21:08:29 GMT
Unless Roose dies on Sunday. That would be a big one. Only if a Stark kills him can that be a revenge for RW This is true for me too. It has to be personal or it won't feel like revenge. Roose is a good villain. I only really want to see him die at the hands of a Stark. |
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on Jun 11, 2015 21:08:24 GMT
Unless Roose dies on Sunday. That would be a big one. Only if a Stark kills him can that be a revenge for RW Yeah. If daughter-murderer-freak kills him it's just whattafuck another villain winning a castle |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 21:11:05 GMT
And according to GRRM, the Winds of Winter will just make everyone cry, so I guess we shouldn't be expecting a happy next season either. Did he say that recently? I thought he said it in his blog post about book/show changes, but that's not where it is. Sorry! He did write an awfully perturbed sounding post on the 10th though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 11:13:18 GMT
WW will kill Roose. It is known. Besides, who Stark could kill him?
Rickon? No = obvious
Bran? No = obvious
Sansa? No = won't work
Jon? No = FTW
Arya? No = she knows him
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 12:36:11 GMT
Did he say that recently? I thought he said it in his blog post about book/show changes, but that's not where it is. Sorry! He did write an awfully perturbed sounding post on the 10th though. So, I finally found where I saw this, and it was someone quoting George's Twitter account, which is fake. Sorry! |
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