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Post by mattpeto on Jun 11, 2015 12:25:29 GMT
Did D&D ever officially confirm that only Season 5 is an adaptation of AFFC and ADWD? I always thought the showrunners demanded upfront that HBO renew two seasons (5+6) at the same time to adapt the books because of the goofy chronology. We've all considered that Season 6 was pure TWOW, but maybe the first few episodes of next season while we will have some TWOW content, the majority of the content can integrate Greyjoys and bringing Jamie/Brienne/Sansa back to their book arcs. Obviously, most of the characters are "caught up" with the end of ADWD, but there are things for them to adapt if they wanted to stretch it out. Pushing back Jon till season 6 FTW would be the smartest move for them truthfully unless they show him really dead or alive after the mutiny. Then they would also have time to get Melisandre back to the Wall if necessary as well. If you put a gun to my head, I still think we get FTW in 5.10, but it's not out of the question they push it back. There will likely be some AFFC/ADWD hangover like there was with ASOS, but not much. All the major AFFC/ADWD storylines are in the prime position to end in the next episode. I don't disagree. Just not ruling out they play a little bit of catch up early in season 6. I always envisioned D&D chomping at the bits as GRRM stalled TWOW to be able to reveal FIRST if Jon's alive or not. They get their chance in 5.10 but might not get one in 6.1 (that's really optimistic, however). In some ways, they and HBO probably love that Martin won't finish these novels.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 12:46:19 GMT
I think following parts from AFfC/ADwD will be left for next season: Sam's journey to Oldtown, Kingsmoot, Urine Euron and Jaime's Riverlands story.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 12:48:25 GMT
Here is my speculation guess or something like that. Sansa and Theon escape and Sansa kills Myranda. They jump from the walls and meet BriPod. BriPod get them to safety (i.e. STANNIS THE MANNIS), but Pod dies because of Rams. Ramsay attack Stannis and gets captured. Stannis orders Roose to surrender, or he shall kill his bastard. Roose says I give no fucks. Sorry man, but there's a problem in your prediction: Brienne freaking hates Stannis and wanna kill the hell outta him xD I do like the "Stannis captures Ramsay but Bolton gives no fucks" though. A bit classic but would set up nicely for Ramsay next season. Aye, but wouldn't she think Sansa is safe with Stannis more than with the Boltons or Littlefinger? Also, she hated Jaime at first.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 12:51:06 GMT
I think following parts from AFfC/ADwD will be left for next season: Sam's journey to Oldtown, Kingsmoot, Urine Euron and Jaime's Riverlands story. I'd put money on Sam's journey not even happening, with him just leaving the Wall in the finale and appearing in Oldtown at the start of S6.
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Post by Enid on Jun 11, 2015 12:52:18 GMT
Did D&D ever officially confirm that only Season 5 is an adaptation of AFFC and ADWD? I always thought the showrunners demanded upfront that HBO renew two seasons (5+6) at the same time to adapt the books because of the goofy chronology. We've all considered that Season 6 was pure TWOW, but maybe the first few episodes of next season while we will have some TWOW content, the majority of the content can integrate Greyjoys and bringing Jamie/Brienne/Sansa back to their book arcs. Obviously, most of the characters are "caught up" with the end of ADWD, but there are things for them to adapt if they wanted to stretch it out. Pushing back Jon till season 6 FTW would be the smartest move for them truthfully unless they show him really dead or alive after the mutiny. Then they would also have time to get Melisandre back to the Wall if necessary as well. If you put a gun to my head, I still think we get FTW in 5.10, but it's not out of the question they push it back. The problem with this is theory is that, unless they start including a lot of material from TWOW next year, they will only have one season to adapt whatever is going to happen in the last two books. I know there is speculation about season 7 being longer than the rest or maybe even an eighth season but so far that has not been confirmed. They have to include things from TWOW next year, otherwise they will only ten episodes to show what happens in the last two books. It is possible we will see things from AFFC next year, but a lot of the characters have ended their book material: Jon: is Lord Commander, has reached a pact with the wildings and has upset a lot of his men. All that is left of his story-arc is FTW. Stannis: About to march towards Winterfell and the Battle of Ice. That is material from TWOW Sansa: she has reached almost the end of Jeyne's arc in ADWD along with Theon. She will probably be the character with more original material because Sansa's role is more important to the overall story than Jeyne's. Arya: is in Braavos and we're going to see the Mercy chapter from TWOW in episode 10. Dany: Has already left Meeren and has Tyrion on her council, something that may not even happen in TWOW. Tyrion: in Meeren and helping Dany and he is done with all his written material. Cersei: almost done, all that is left is the Walk of Shame and we know that happens this week. Jaime: maybe we will his AFFC plot next year. Maybe we won't. Depends on the writers, they can cut it if they want. Brienne: she may go back to the Riverlands once Sansa is safe and have her AFFC arc, maybe Sansa will learn she found Arya and send Brienne to look for her again. Maybe she will stay in the North. Just like Jaime, depends on the writers. Tyrells: in a very similar situation as the one they have at the end of AFFC. All that is left is Euron attacking the Reach and that will probably be in next season. Sam: still not confirmed, but is very possible he will go to Oldtown. If they send him there in the finale and cut the trip to Braavos, they can end all his remaining chapters in one episode. Dorne: even with the changes the situation is similar to the one in the books, Doran is sending someone to be a part of the Small Council and probably weaken the Lannister rule from the inside. Bran: even though he was absent this season, he had reached almost the end of his published story-line last year. And if he has been learning magic all this time, is easy to just cut those chapters and show him with more advanced powers in season 6. Davos: he is one of the wild cards. Will he abandon Stannis once he discovers what happened to Shireen? Will he go after Rickon? No idea. His story may end up being really different from the one in the books. Littlefinger: is up to the writers. Maybe he will rally that army and go North, maybe the Faith will go after him before he leaves KL. Right now I can't remember anyone else, but they are almost done with all the material from AFFC and ADWD, IMO only Jaime and Brienne may end up going back to their AFFC plot-lines. The rest are almost done with all their chapters.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 12:58:12 GMT
Did D&D ever officially confirm that only Season 5 is an adaptation of AFFC and ADWD? I always thought the showrunners demanded upfront that HBO renew two seasons (5+6) at the same time to adapt the books because of the goofy chronology. We've all considered that Season 6 was pure TWOW, but maybe the first few episodes of next season while we will have some TWOW content, the majority of the content can integrate Greyjoys and bringing Jamie/Brienne/Sansa back to their book arcs. Obviously, most of the characters are "caught up" with the end of ADWD, but there are things for them to adapt if they wanted to stretch it out. Pushing back Jon till season 6 FTW would be the smartest move for them truthfully unless they show him really dead or alive after the mutiny. Then they would also have time to get Melisandre back to the Wall if necessary as well. If you put a gun to my head, I still think we get FTW in 5.10, but it's not out of the question they push it back. The problem with this is theory is that, unless they start including a lot of material from TWOW next year, they will only have one season to adapt whatever is going to happen in the last two books. I know there is speculation about season 7 being longer than the rest or maybe even an eighth season but so far that has not been confirmed. They have to include things from TWOW next year, otherwise they will only ten episodes to show what happens in the last two books. It is possible we will see things from AFFC next year, but a lot of the characters have ended their book material: Jon: is Lord Commander, has reached a pact with the wildings and has upset a lot of his men. All that is left of his story-arc is FTW. Stannis: About to march towards Winterfell and the Battle of Ice. That is material from TWOW Sansa: she has reached almost the end of Jeyne's arc in ADWD along with Theon. She will probably be the character with more original material because Sansa's role is more important to the overall story than Jeyne's. Arya: is in Braavos and we're going to see the Mercy chapter from TWOW in episode 10. Dany: Has already left Meeren and has Tyrion on her council, something that may not even happen in TWOW. Tyrion: in Meeren and helping Dany and he is done with all his written material. Cersei: almost done, all that is left is the Walk of Shame and we know that happens this week. Jaime: maybe we will his AFFC plot next year. Maybe we won't. Depends on the writers, they can cut it if they want. Brienne: she may go back to the Riverlands once Sansa is safe and have her AFFC arc, maybe Sansa will learn she found Arya and send Brienne to look for her again. Maybe she will stay in the North. Just like Jaime, depends on the writers. Tyrells: in a very similar situation as the one they have at the end of AFFC. All that is left is Euron attacking the Reach and that will probably be in next season. Sam: still not confirmed, but is very possible he will go to Oldtown. If they send him there in the finale and cut the trip to Braavos, they can end all his remaining chapters in one episode. Dorne: even with the changes the situation is similar to the one in the books, Doran is sending someone to be a part of the Small Council and probably weaken the Lannister rule from the inside. Bran: even though he was absent this season, he had reached almost the end of his published story-line last year. And if he has been learning magic all this time, is easy to just cut those chapters and show him with more advanced powers in season 6. Davos: he is one of the wild cards. Will he abandon Stannis once he discovers what happened to Shireen? Will he go after Rickon? No idea. His story may end up being really different from the one in the books. Littlefinger: is up to the writers. Maybe he will rally that army and go North, maybe the Faith will go after him before he leaves KL. Right now I can't remember anyone else, but they are almost done with all the material from AFFC and ADWD, IMO only Jaime and Brienne may end up going back to their AFFC plot-lines. The rest are almost done with all their chapters. This.
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Post by Admin on Jun 11, 2015 13:03:47 GMT
Here is my speculation guess or something like that. Sansa and Theon escape and Sansa kills Myranda. They jump from the walls and meet BriPod. BriPod get them to safety (i.e. STANNIS THE MANNIS), but Pod dies because of Rams. Ramsay attack Stannis and gets captured. Stannis orders Roose to surrender, or he shall kill his bastard. Roose says I give no fucks. Sorry man, but there's a problem in your prediction: Brienne freaking hates Stannis and wanna kill the hell outta him xD I do like the "Stannis captures Ramsay but Bolton gives no fucks" though. A bit classic but would set up nicely for Ramsay next season. My predictions is that finale ends on cliffhangers regarding everyone in Northern storyline I fear your predictions are right, Sati. There is way too much stuff in this episode to feature full-scale siege/battle. Imho we'll get Stannis facing Ramsay and maybe capturing him, but not engaging Winterfell until next season. We'll probably get Sansa escaping (with or without Theon) and meeting Brienne (and possibly LS). I really feel like the "final montage" idea could be a thing. "The wars to come" would serve the purpose well. ... I am still skeptical about FTW. Something in my guts tells me we're not gonna see what we expect to see. FTW sounds too obvious to break the internet at this point The only thing is that the writers said the last scene of the season is from the published book, so that montage can be penultimate scene. The last scene of the season is either FTW or book 3 epilogue imho and given how depressing this season was I think it's a bad idea to end with FTW
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Post by kuroitheblack on Jun 11, 2015 13:52:45 GMT
. The only thing is that the writers said the last scene of the season is from the published book, so that montage can be penultimate scene. The last scene of the season is either FTW or book 3 epilogue imho and given how depressing this season was I think it's a bad idea to end with FTW Absolutely yes. I have the feeling we'll get the montage cliffhanger between the Walk and the final scene, wich I hope will be LS but not exactly as in book 3 epilogue, because I think they'll show us LS though another character's meeting her. I have the feeling this season will live the Siege of Winterfell to next season, along with some other storyline from AFFC/ADWD. Next season I think we'll have: - Jon's storyline at the Wall and FTW (which I think will not happen this sunday)
- Stannis's storyline and Siege of Winterfell
- Original material/TWOW material for Tyrion, Cersei, Sansa and Dany
- AFFC/ADWD storylines and beyond for the Riverlands (Jaimie, Brienne and hopefully LS), Sam's journey and the Greyjoys, which will take Dorne's and Winterfell's place (as the northern storylines of Winterfell and Stannis will probably unite with the ending of the Siege).
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Post by mattpeto on Jun 11, 2015 14:12:44 GMT
They definitely put a large dent into the last two books this season, no question about it.
I think HBO will really force D&D into an 8th season (or 8th year calling it Season 7 Part 2). 75-80 episodes will be wrap.
That still gives them about 25-30 episodes to work with. Plenty of time to iron out the end game IMO.
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Post by kuroitheblack on Jun 11, 2015 14:34:12 GMT
They definitely put a large dent into the last two books this season, no question about it. I think HBO will really force D&D into an 8th season (or 8th year calling it Season 7 Part 2). 75-80 episodes will be wrap. That still gives them about 25-30 episodes to work with. Plenty of time to iron out the end game IMO. Uh, I think you have a bit of confusion regarding how tv shows and renewals work. Usually, a show gets renewed for the next season at the end of the previous one, depending on the scores and the number of viewers the show has. Usually the big series like Breaking Bad practically have an assured renewal waiting for them at the end of the season, so it's more of a formality in most cases. There are some exceptions, and Game of Thrones is one of them, in which the series gets renewed for more than just one season, because the viewers and the scores are so high that the network (in this case, HBO) wants to work ahead and plan the contracts with actors, location providers and crews with a two year-margin. When a series goes very well, the network puts more money in its making, in order to make even more money. Game of Thrones saw its viewers grow of an astonishing 400% from season 1 to season 4, so last year HBO renewed GoT for season 5 and 6 instead of just season 6, and started investing and planning the whole thing. It's not impossible that already this year we'll get notice of a renewal for season 7 and 8. Now, all of this explanation is to clear the road for what I'm about to say: There is no such thing as an episode limit. There's no "season 8 will be called season 7 part 2" or "they'll have 25 episodes to end the series" or "they'll have one season to adapt book 7" or anything even remotely similar to that. As long as the network is gonna fund the series (and they are basically printing money thanks to GoT, so that's assured) and the actors are gonna accept the larger and larger amounts of money they will be offered to reprise their roles, the series will go on for all the time that it needs. D&D and expecially HBO are gonna take their time with this series, I guarantee it. It is a gold mine for them, as well for the actors. Proof is theyy are sticking to the 10-episodes a year formula: it costs them a certain amount of money and time, it repays them fifteen times over, and grants that the series will be longer than with 13 episodes a year. So, making predictions based on "but then they'll only have one season to adapt this and that" is a bit silly. If GoT will need eight seasons to end, it will have 8 seasons. If it will need 10 seasons (which is more likely), it will definitely have 10 seasons. And that's something we can be sure of.
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 11, 2015 14:40:10 GMT
They definitely put a large dent into the last two books this season, no question about it. I think HBO will really force D&D into an 8th season (or 8th year calling it Season 7 Part 2). 75-80 episodes will be wrap. That still gives them about 25-30 episodes to work with. Plenty of time to iron out the end game IMO. Uh, I think you have a bit of confusion regarding how tv shows and renewals work. Usually, a show gets renewed for the next season at the end of the previous one, depending on the scores and the number of viewers the show has. Usually the big series like Breaking Bad practically have an assured renewal waiting for them at the end of the season, so it's more of a formality in most cases. There are some exceptions, and Game of Thrones is one of them, in which the series gets renewed for more than just one season, because the viewers and the scores are so high that the network (in this case, HBO) wants to work ahead and plan the contracts with actors, location providers and crews with a two year-margin. When a series goes very well, the network puts more money in its making, in order to make even more money. Game of Thrones saw its viewers grow of an astonishing 400% from season 1 to season 4, so last year HBO renewed GoT for season 5 and 6 instead of just season 6, and started investing and planning the whole thing. It's not impossible that already this year we'll get notice of a renewal for season 7 and 8. Now, all of this explanation is to clear the road for what I'm about to say: There is no such thing as an episode limit. There's no "season 8 will be called season 7 part 2" or "they'll have 25 episodes to end the series" or "they'll have one season to adapt book 7" or anything even remotely similar to that. As long as the network is gonna fund the series (and they are basically printing money thanks to GoT, so that's assured) and the actors are gonna accept the larger and larger amounts of money they will be offered to reprise their roles, the series will go on for all the time that it needs. D&D and expecially HBO are gonna take their time with this series, I guarantee it. It is a gold mine for them, as well for the actors. Proof is theyy are sticking to the 10-episodes a year formula: it costs them a certain amount of money and time, it repays them fifteen times over, and grants that the series will be longer than with 13 episodes a year. So, making predictions based on "but then they'll only have one season to adapt this and that" is a bit silly. If GoT will need eight seasons to end, it will have 8 seasons. If it will need 10 seasons (which is more likely), it will definitely have 10 seasons. And that's something we can be sure of. D&D have stated time and time again that the story they are telling will not need 10 or 9 seasons to end, they've been working toward 7 seasons for quite some time. That's how they've structured the story out. Could there be some wiggle room for an extended 7th season that has say 15-16 episodes that get split up? Sure. But that's it. Of course HBO would love to have GoT run much longer than that because it's a huge cash cow but they have gone on the record (before this season) that they will adhere to whatever the wishes are for D&D in terms of the amount of time they need to tell the story.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 14:50:26 GMT
Uh, I think you have a bit of confusion regarding how tv shows and renewals work. Usually, a show gets renewed for the next season at the end of the previous one, depending on the scores and the number of viewers the show has. Usually the big series like Breaking Bad practically have an assured renewal waiting for them at the end of the season, so it's more of a formality in most cases. There are some exceptions, and Game of Thrones is one of them, in which the series gets renewed for more than just one season, because the viewers and the scores are so high that the network (in this case, HBO) wants to work ahead and plan the contracts with actors, location providers and crews with a two year-margin. When a series goes very well, the network puts more money in its making, in order to make even more money. Game of Thrones saw its viewers grow of an astonishing 400% from season 1 to season 4, so last year HBO renewed GoT for season 5 and 6 instead of just season 6, and started investing and planning the whole thing. It's not impossible that already this year we'll get notice of a renewal for season 7 and 8. Now, all of this explanation is to clear the road for what I'm about to say: There is no such thing as an episode limit. There's no "season 8 will be called season 7 part 2" or "they'll have 25 episodes to end the series" or "they'll have one season to adapt book 7" or anything even remotely similar to that. As long as the network is gonna fund the series (and they are basically printing money thanks to GoT, so that's assured) and the actors are gonna accept the larger and larger amounts of money they will be offered to reprise their roles, the series will go on for all the time that it needs. D&D and expecially HBO are gonna take their time with this series, I guarantee it. It is a gold mine for them, as well for the actors. Proof is theyy are sticking to the 10-episodes a year formula: it costs them a certain amount of money and time, it repays them fifteen times over, and grants that the series will be longer than with 13 episodes a year. So, making predictions based on "but then they'll only have one season to adapt this and that" is a bit silly. If GoT will need eight seasons to end, it will have 8 seasons. If it will need 10 seasons (which is more likely), it will definitely have 10 seasons. And that's something we can be sure of. D&D have stated time and time again that the story they are telling will not need 10 or 9 seasons to end, they've been working toward 7 seasons for quite some time. That's how they've structured the story out. Could there be some wiggle room for an extended 7th season that has say 15-16 episodes that get split up? Sure. But that's it. Of course HBO would love to have GoT run much longer than that because it's a huge cash cow but they have gone on the record (before this season) that they will adhere to whatever the wishes are for D&D in terms of the amount of time they need to tell the story. Exactly. No matter how many seasons HBO wants it to go on, they will bow to D&D's wishes.
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Post by kuroitheblack on Jun 11, 2015 15:06:53 GMT
D&D have stated time and time again that the story they are telling will not need 10 or 9 seasons to end, they've been working toward 7 seasons for quite some time. That's how they've structured the story out. Could there be some wiggle room for an extended 7th season that has say 15-16 episodes that get split up? Sure. But that's it. Of course HBO would love to have GoT run much longer than that because it's a huge cash cow but they have gone on the record (before this season) that they will adhere to whatever the wishes are for D&D in terms of the amount of time they need to tell the story. Sure, I am aware of what their intentions are/were. My point was: HBO is not going to impose any kind of episode limit on D&D's writing. Their goal was to make seven seasons, and might as well still be, but should their planning create the need for a season 8 or season 9, they'll do it with no pressure from the network. My argument was to negate the "they have to finish in 7-8 seasons" idea, which does not exist. Perhaps I should have written "10 seasons (wich imho is more likely)", I apologize for that. But I really think we won't see an ending in two years with season 7... And my bets aren't on season 8 either. If the current seasons does not end with FTW but postpones it to season 6, that is. And I am getting a no-FTW vibe from this season finale, so I guess we'll see
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Post by breakfest on Jun 11, 2015 15:11:39 GMT
I'll bet my house we get For The Watch.
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 11, 2015 15:21:31 GMT
I don't think we spend this much time with Thorne telling Jon that he's making a mistake with the Wildlings, emphasizing his lack of support within the NW and having both he and Sam give Olly the "sometimes we have to do things that are unpopular for the greater good" speech to not follow through on FTW this season. They even let Jon get back to the Wall an episode early (which they could have easily delayed until the finale if that's where they wanted to end things for him this season.
Just too many dirty looks, cryptic comments and foreshadowing for this to not be depicted this season.
My only concern is if the plan is to have the finale end exactly where Jon's last ADwD ends (with him seemingly dead). That's a pretty crushing blow to deliver to the fanbase in a season where they've had to watch a fair amount of misery. I don't think he'll necessarily be resurrected on the spot per se, but I wonder if they'll imply something ambiguous that will lead the audience to believe he will be resurrected.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 15:21:31 GMT
10 seasons is not happening. 10 seasons is what GRRM and HBO would like, but pretty much everything D&D have said has made it abundantly clear that the series will end with 8 seasons, max.
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Post by kuroitheblack on Jun 11, 2015 15:30:38 GMT
10 seasons is not happening. 10 seasons is what GRRM and HBO would like, but pretty much everything D&D have said has made it abundantly clear that the series will end with 8 seasons, max. I am aware of that. Again, my point was just that D&D have no restraints whatsoever regarding le lenght of the show. If they wanted to do 10 seasons they could. So the whole "they have to finish in three seasons" is not a thing, period. Sorry if I expressed myself in a misleading way, I'm pretty good with the english lenguage but I come from Pizza Country after all XD I don't think we spend this much time with Thorne telling Jon that he's making a mistake with the Wildlings, emphasizing his lack of support within the NW and having both he and Sam give Olly the "sometimes we have to do things that are unpopular for the greater good" speech to not follow through on FTW this season. They even let Jon get back to the Wall an episode early (which they could have easily delayed until the finale if that's where they wanted to end things for him this season. Just too many dirty looks, cryptic comments and foreshadowing for this to not be depicted this season. My only concern is if the plan is to have the finale end exactly where Jon's last ADwD ends (with him seemingly dead). That's a pretty crushing blow to deliver to the fanbase in a season where they've had to watch a fair amount of misery. I don't think he'll necessarily be resurrected on the spot per se, but I wonder if they'll imply something ambiguous that will lead the audience to believe he will be resurrected. I know it's pretty much confirmed, and that's why I am not 100% convinced. I am convinced that, to "break the internet", they can't just show something we all expect to see. I think that if we see FTW next sunfay, it will have something unexpected added to it (like, as you said, a hint on Jon's fate that goes beyond ADWD and makes Linda lose her shit again xD). And if we don't see FTW, then something else will happen. Something other than FTW that is gonna shock all of the audience, not only the Unsullied.
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Post by mattpeto on Jun 11, 2015 15:36:26 GMT
D&D have stated time and time again that the story they are telling will not need 10 or 9 seasons to end, they've been working toward 7 seasons for quite some time. That's how they've structured the story out. Could there be some wiggle room for an extended 7th season that has say 15-16 episodes that get split up? Sure. But that's it. Of course HBO would love to have GoT run much longer than that because it's a huge cash cow but they have gone on the record (before this season) that they will adhere to whatever the wishes are for D&D in terms of the amount of time they need to tell the story. Sure, I am aware of what their intentions are/were. My point was: HBO is not going to impose any kind of episode limit on D&D's writing. Their goal was to make seven seasons, and might as well still be, but should their planning create the need for a season 8 or season 9, they'll do it with no pressure from the network. My argument was to negate the "they have to finish in 7-8 seasons" idea, which does not exist. Perhaps I should have written "10 seasons (wich imho is more likely)", I apologize for that. But I really think we won't see an ending in two years with season 7... And my bets aren't on season 8 either. If the current seasons does not end with FTW but postpones it to season 6, that is. And I am getting a no-FTW vibe from this season finale, so I guess we'll see My original line "HBO is going to force..." meant that D&D only want 7 seasons and HBO will step up and make it worth their while to tell an additional half of season or full season. That's where I was coming from. HBO won't want this series to finish. But if they are smart, they start working on another series from ASOIAF World (another time setting) and I believe they will. Too much cash to not to keep making episodes. But D&D are done at 7 or 8 seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 15:37:06 GMT
10 seasons is not happening. 10 seasons is what GRRM and HBO would like, but pretty much everything D&D have said has made it abundantly clear that the series will end with 8 seasons, max. I am aware of that. Again, my point was just that D&D have no restraints whatsoever regarding le lenght of the show. If they wanted to do 10 seasons they could. So the whole "they have to finish in three seasons" is not a thing, period. Sorry if I expressed myself in a misleading way, I'm pretty good with the english lenguage but I come from Pizza Country after all XD I don't think we spend this much time with Thorne telling Jon that he's making a mistake with the Wildlings, emphasizing his lack of support within the NW and having both he and Sam give Olly the "sometimes we have to do things that are unpopular for the greater good" speech to not follow through on FTW this season. They even let Jon get back to the Wall an episode early (which they could have easily delayed until the finale if that's where they wanted to end things for him this season. Just too many dirty looks, cryptic comments and foreshadowing for this to not be depicted this season. My only concern is if the plan is to have the finale end exactly where Jon's last ADwD ends (with him seemingly dead). That's a pretty crushing blow to deliver to the fanbase in a season where they've had to watch a fair amount of misery. I don't think he'll necessarily be resurrected on the spot per se, but I wonder if they'll imply something ambiguous that will lead the audience to believe he will be resurrected. I know it's pretty much confirmed, and that's why I am not 100% convinced. I am convinced that, to "break the internet", they can't just show something we all expect to see. I think that if we see FTW next sunfay, it will have something unexpected added to it (like, as you said, a hint on Jon's fate that goes beyond ADWD and makes Linda lose her shit again xD). And if we don't see FTW, then something else will happen. Something other than FTW that is gonna shock all of the audience, not only the Unsullied. Unsullied don't expect it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 15:38:12 GMT
10 seasons is not happening. 10 seasons is what GRRM and HBO would like, but pretty much everything D&D have said has made it abundantly clear that the series will end with 8 seasons, max. I am aware of that. Again, my point was just that D&D have no restraints whatsoever regarding le lenght of the show. If they wanted to do 10 seasons they could. So the whole "they have to finish in three seasons" is not a thing, period. Sorry if I expressed myself in a misleading way, I'm pretty good with the english lenguage but I come from Pizza Country after all XD I don't think anyone thinks they have to finish in 3 seasons for any reason other than the fact that D&D have said that's how long it will take. Of course it could go longer, but there's no real reason to assume it will.
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