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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 6:37:45 GMT
"The fight highlights one of “Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken”’s most admirable qualities: There’s a sense of newness about the episode that Game Of Thrones can’t always muster on a weekly basis. We know the major players and the major settings so well now that some of the best parts of season five harken back to the surprise and seemingly endless possibilities of the show’s early years. The epic scale of the show is tied up in its sense of undiscovered lands, and these episodes have delivered on that front, like the glimpses of Dorne they’ve afforded or last week’s cruise through the Valyrian ruins."
One reason I love Dorne.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 6:46:42 GMT
That fight was beyond cheesy. I was cringing the whole time watching that shit. Not really a fan of the Sand Snakes in the books either, but they're awful in the show.
Such sloppy writing too. What was Jaime and Bronn's plan? Just waltz out of the Water Gardens with Myrcella? So stupid. I understand Jaime is doing it as a punishment for helping Tyrion, but it's pretty much a suicide mission. Why the hell would Bronn agree to such a "plan"?
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on May 18, 2015 6:48:07 GMT
Tommen is so out of his depth. I actually really like what they're doing with Tommen, it's pretty unique. They've aged him up so that he could conceivably be a ruler of some consequence (you know a kid like Bran wouldn't stand for any of this shit and he's even younger). But because he's never been raised as a future king and Cersei has coddled him like a baby his whole life, he is completely and utterly unprepared to do anything in the role, even though he has the best of intentions. It's kind of fascinating and probably a better dramatic choice than having him be too young and as a result, absent from the proceedings. Dean-Charles Chapman thinks Tommen is only 12, so he hasn't really been aged up older than Bran, who should be at least 12 by now.
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Post by King Tommen on May 18, 2015 6:51:34 GMT
Jaime and Bronn's plan looked positively elaborate if you compare it to whatever the Sandsnakes were supposed to do. Gather in a darkened hallway for a pregame huddle and then...walk into the courtyard in the middle of the day and snatch Myrcella in front of everyone? Why even bother sneaking around in the first place? Unless the plan was to just kill Myrcella which may or may not have been their motivation last time we saw them. But of course, that can't be it because Tyene grabbed her to try and take her...somewhere.
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Post by King Tommen on May 18, 2015 6:53:58 GMT
I actually really like what they're doing with Tommen, it's pretty unique. They've aged him up so that he could conceivably be a ruler of some consequence (you know a kid like Bran wouldn't stand for any of this shit and he's even younger). But because he's never been raised as a future king and Cersei has coddled him like a baby his whole life, he is completely and utterly unprepared to do anything in the role, even though he has the best of intentions. It's kind of fascinating and probably a better dramatic choice than having him be too young and as a result, absent from the proceedings. Dean-Charles Chapman thinks Tommen is only 12, so he hasn't really been aged up older than Bran, who should be at least 12 by now. Yeah maybe. The kids' ages are a little murky but regardless, even if they're the same age, Bran would go about things much differently than Tommen.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 6:57:27 GMT
Jaime and Bronn's plan looked positively elaborate if you compare it to whatever the Sandsnakes were supposed to do. Gather in a darkened hallway for a pregame huddle and then...walk into the courtyard in the middle of the day and snatch Myrcella in front of everyone? Why even bother sneaking around in the first place? Unless the plan was to just kill Myrcella which may or may not have been their motivation last time we saw them. But of course, that can't be it because Tyene grabbed her to try and take her...somewhere. Yeah, I thought they were just going to pull a Darkstar, which would have made sense. Killing the princess would certainly start a war. Their "plan" was as stupid as Jaime and Bronn's. And they actually know 1st hand how well guarded the WG are. Stupid.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on May 18, 2015 6:58:52 GMT
Dean-Charles Chapman thinks Tommen is only 12, so he hasn't really been aged up older than Bran, who should be at least 12 by now. Yeah maybe. The kids' ages are a little murky but regardless, even if they're the same age, Bran would go about things much differently than Tommen. I mean, if the actor thinks Tommen is still a pre-teen and tries to raise his voice accordingly, that's good enough for me. He must have some reason for thinking that.
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Post by Admin on May 18, 2015 6:59:25 GMT
1/10 is winning in the poll thread on Westeros.org is really the only way to react to AFOIAF at this point. I'd but it hurts my head too much. I am lurking there and browsing tumblr right now and the response is really strong, people throwing 1's and saying they are not gonna watch anymore. Also that Stannis throws leeches called D&D gifset resurfaced again and that's always fun
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 7:02:08 GMT
is really the only way to react to AFOIAF at this point. I'd but it hurts my head too much. I am lurking there and browsing tumblr right now and the response is really strong, people throwing 1's and saying they are not gonna watch anymore. Also that Stannis throws leeches called D&D gifset resurfaced again and that's always fun I really hope the people from the Ranting and Raving thread do stop watching. I can't imagine regularly watching something I disliked that vehemently.
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Post by King Tommen on May 18, 2015 7:02:27 GMT
People who say they won't watch anymore are the best. Come back to me in a couple weeks and tell me that you haven't watched the episodes since and then I'll at least be a little impressed.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 7:03:02 GMT
is really the only way to react to AFOIAF at this point. I'd but it hurts my head too much. I am lurking there and browsing tumblr right now and the response is really strong, people throwing 1's and saying they are not gonna watch anymore. Also that Stannis throws leeches called D&D gifset resurfaced again and that's always fun The world would be a better place if Westeros stopped watching.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 7:03:52 GMT
Lol we all posted that at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 7:06:04 GMT
People are giving the episode 1's because Ramsay raped Sansa and for the Sand Snakes. If you eliminate those two, the episode wasn't even that bad.
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Post by King Tommen on May 18, 2015 7:09:27 GMT
grrm.livejournal.com/427713.htmlGeorge's answer to questions about tonight. He pulls out most of the same stuff. "Show is the show, books are the books", Scarlett O'Hara's kids, butterfly effect etc. Basically, we're going to end up more or less in the same place at the end but we'll take different routes and the show will diverge more and more as we get further along because of the small changes at the start that caused bigger changes later on.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 7:09:46 GMT
People are giving the episode 1's because Ramsay raped Sansa and for the Sand Snakes. If you eliminate those two, the episode wasn't even that bad. They're doing it as a vote of protest basically not an actual critical evaluation. If the mods there would set some ground rules about voting thusly, things like that wouldn't happen but they don't care enough. Last week when I reported a commenter who said that, though he thought 505 deserved a 5, that he'd given it a 1 just to skew the average lower, the mods did fuck-all about it.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 7:12:27 GMT
grrm.livejournal.com/427713.htmlGeorge's answer to questions about tonight. He pulls out most of the same stuff. "Show is the show, books are the books", Scarlett O'Hara's kids, butterfly effect etc. Basically, we're going to end up more or less in the same place at the end but we'll take different routes and the show will diverge more and more as we get further along because of the small changes at the start that caused bigger changes later on. That's WOTW's first official mention by GrrM, I'm pretty sure. They must be proud of that.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 7:13:40 GMT
Protesting the show will not make Winds of Winter come sooner.
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Post by Admin on May 18, 2015 7:14:05 GMT
People who say they won't watch anymore are the best. Come back to me in a couple weeks and tell me that you haven't watched the episodes since and then I'll at least be a little impressed. Yeah I cannot imagine anyone stopping watching they clearly care way too much and love to bitch. The only times I stopped watching shows was either because they bored me or I didn't have the time for them People are giving the episode 1's because Ramsay raped Sansa and for the Sand Snakes. If you eliminate those two, the episode wasn't even that bad. I downgraded WotW episode rating because of the sucky ending, giving it 6/10 I think, but still rating something 1...the costumes and production values alone deserve praise. It's so petty to rate something 1 because of one scene. Then again whenever I see a movie depicting animal's death with no reason I always take away one point as the sign of protest.
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 18, 2015 7:21:49 GMT
People are giving the episode 1's because Ramsay raped Sansa and for the Sand Snakes. If you eliminate those two, the episode wasn't even that bad. I actually still think Qarth was the worst thing in the show so far. But people are giving more attention to Dorne because they are mad at all the changes on this season. And, in fact, this season is being a weak season so far. This was the first episode I liked a lot, as much as I used to like the previous seasons ones. And I don't say it as a book purist, this episode had a lot of changes but it still thrilled me a lot.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 7:35:00 GMT
People are giving the episode 1's because Ramsay raped Sansa and for the Sand Snakes. If you eliminate those two, the episode wasn't even that bad. I actually still think Qarth was the worst thing in the show so far. But people are giving more attention to Dorne because they are mad at all the changes on this season. And, in fact, this season is being a weak season so far. This was the first episode I liked a lot, as much as I used to like the previous seasons ones. And I don't say it as a book purist, this episode had a lot of changes but it still thrilled me a lot. Qarth was horrible, mostly due to the writing. Honestly, I don't think Season 5 is as horrible as some people have been saying. Yes there have been massive changes from the books, some for the best, some for the worst, but looking at the series as a whole, the weakest season still to me is Season 2. Yes, Season 5 has been off to a slow start, but weren't AFFC and ADWD as well. Season 3 had a slow build up and didn't have a major character death until Episode 4 and it was more faithful to the books than Season 2 was. I think the issue is that Season 4 jumped into big events so quickly with The Purple Wedding in Episode 2 that people immediately thought that it would be the same case this season. It's not going to be that way because even in AFFC and ADWD, there were no shocking events in the beginning really, which is why they are condensing it because if D&D didn't, the show would be overwhelming with the number of characters and subplots that book readers might enjoy, but Unsullied would find difficult to navigate.
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