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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 16:11:11 GMT
If Tyrion doesn't even attempt to argue/talk back to her, I'll be disappointed that he's fallen for Saint Daenerys I agree. Barristan and Jorah came to her because of their own free will and were kind of smitten by her. Dany has to convince Tyrion, especially since she's failing pretty bad at ruling. I really look forward to Tyrion telling her that she knows literally nothing of Westeros. Agreed. I'm also hoping that Dany tells Tyrion to stop being a mopy self-destructive git. He needs a motivational speech. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 16:15:38 GMT
I agree. Barristan and Jorah came to her because of their own free will and were kind of smitten by her. Dany has to convince Tyrion, especially since she's failing pretty bad at ruling. I really look forward to Tyrion telling her that she knows literally nothing of Westeros. Agreed. I'm also hoping that Dany tells Tyrion to stop being a mopy self-destructive git. He needs a motivational speech. IMO Show Tyrion isn't that much of a self-destructive git. He was drunk self-destructive dwarf in the first three episodes, but now he is just Tyrion. At least I can't see him dwelling on self-pity and being all messed up for killing his father. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 16:22:09 GMT
Agreed. I'm also hoping that Dany tells Tyrion to stop being a mopy self-destructive git. He needs a motivational speech. IMO Show Tyrion isn't that much of a self-destructive git. He was drunk self-destructive dwarf in the first three episodes, but now he is just Tyrion. At least I can't see him dwelling on self-pity and being all messed up for killing his father. Hmm, I guess that does apply more to book Tyrion. But he's been in survival mode for the past few episodes, I wouldn't be surprised if he still hates himself. I do think Tyrion needs a purpose though, and that Dany can give him one. They can help each other. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 16:34:25 GMT
IMO Show Tyrion isn't that much of a self-destructive git. He was drunk self-destructive dwarf in the first three episodes, but now he is just Tyrion. At least I can't see him dwelling on self-pity and being all messed up for killing his father. Hmm, I guess that does apply more to book Tyrion. But he's been in survival mode for the past few episodes, I wouldn't be surprised if he still hates himself. I do think Tyrion needs a purpose though, and that Dany can give him one. They can help each other. showTyrion seemed to be more wrecked by alcohol withdrawal, especially in the first episode with Varys. I think he keeps his real emotions more to himself. I suppose Dany and Tyrion will recognise each others flaws and then decide to work together, because the one has got what the other one has not. |
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Post by day dreamer on May 29, 2015 17:02:03 GMT
I can't imagine Tyrion getting that wheel speech and NOT pointing out that she's part of the wheel herself. Even though he is her prisoner and probably won't be as frank. I can't see him saying nothing.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 18:20:32 GMT
Agreed. I'm also hoping that Dany tells Tyrion to stop being a mopy self-destructive git. He needs a motivational speech. IMO Show Tyrion isn't that much of a self-destructive git. He was drunk self-destructive dwarf in the first three episodes, but now he is just Tyrion. At least I can't see him dwelling on self-pity and being all messed up for killing his father. Book Tyrion was far more self destructive and rude than show Tyrion, I agree. They never played up how awful he was while staying at Illyrio's, etc. I'm just glad he doesn't say "Where do whores go?" every 10 minutes - that got tiresome in the book.  His journey with Griff and co. was where he started to feel more alive again so I think they transferred that into his trip with Jorah in the boat. He realizes he has something to live for and kind of snaps out of it by the time they get captured by the slavers. He realizes he very much still wants to live (after nearly drowning to stone men) and fights for his freedom to get to Jorah and Dany. All that being said, I expect there to be a little ruffling of feathers when he first gets to know Daenerys. I'm looking forward to it. We must not forget that even though Tyrion is renowned for his snarkiness, he's also quite good at charm and wit so he understands when he needs to lay it on thick or not. Dany has never met someone like him. All of her advisors thus far have been very gentle about their 'advice' (whether good or bad) so Tyrion will be the first to really give her the honesty she needs to get out of the mess she's in. The "wheel" speech is all about her arrogance thinking she can destroy it. I agree with others that Tyrion is going to teach her that she's just a spoke in that wheel ...for now. The only thing that's really going to break the wheel is winter. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 18:30:37 GMT
IMO Show Tyrion isn't that much of a self-destructive git. He was drunk self-destructive dwarf in the first three episodes, but now he is just Tyrion. At least I can't see him dwelling on self-pity and being all messed up for killing his father. Book Tyrion was far more self destructive and rude than show Tyrion, I agree. They never played up how awful he was while staying at Illyrio's, etc. I'm just glad he doesn't say "Where do whores go?" every 10 minutes - that got tiresome in the book. His journey with Griff and co. was where he started to feel more alive again so I think they transferred that into his trip with Jorah in the boat. He realizes he has something to live for and kind of snaps out of it by the time they get captured by the slavers. He realizes he very much still wants to live (after nearly drowning to stone men) and fights for his freedom to get to Jorah and Dany. All that being said, I expect there to be a little ruffling of feathers when he first gets to know Daenerys. I'm looking forward to it. We must not forget that even though Tyrion is renowned for his snarkiness, he's also quite good at charm and wit so he understands when he needs to lay it on thick or not. Dany has never met someone like him. All of her advisors thus far have been very gentle about their 'advice' (whether good or bad) so Tyrion will be the first to really give her the honesty she needs to get out of the mess she's in. The "wheel" speech is all about her arrogance thinking she can destroy it. I agree with others that Tyrion is going to teach her that she's just a spoke in that wheel ...for now. The only thing that's really going to break the wheel is winter. If you would be a book character, this would be my favourite quote from you. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 18:40:01 GMT
All of her advisors thus far have been very gentle about their 'advice' (whether good or bad) so Tyrion will be the first to really give her the honesty she needs to get out of the mess she's in. The "wheel" speech is all about her arrogance thinking she can destroy it. I agree with others that Tyrion is going to teach her that she's just a spoke in that wheel ...for now. The only thing that's really going to break the wheel is winter. If you would be a book character, this would be my favourite quote from you. Haha, thanks!  Maybe someone meek like Missandei can lean over one day and say: "Your Grace, isn't it quite cold and getting colder by the day over there in Westeros? Perhaps we should be getting some warm coats for our unsullied..." cut to Missandei buttoning up a parka on Grey Worm and kissing him for luck!  But seriously, all jokes aside ... it will be the wall that changes Dany's attitude, in more ways than one.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 18:53:05 GMT
If you would be a book character, this would be my favourite quote from you. Haha, thanks! Maybe someone meek like Missandei can lean over one day and say: "Your Grace, isn't it quite cold and getting colder by the day over there in Westeros? Perhaps we should be getting some warm coats for our unsullied..." cut to Missandei buttoning up a parka on Grey Worm and kissing him for luck! But seriously, all jokes aside ... it will be the wall that changes Dany's attitude, in more ways than one. I can't get the picture of Missandei presenting the weather forecast out of my head, thank you very much! |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 18:56:22 GMT
Haha, thanks! Maybe someone meek like Missandei can lean over one day and say: "Your Grace, isn't it quite cold and getting colder by the day over there in Westeros? Perhaps we should be getting some warm coats for our unsullied..." cut to Missandei buttoning up a parka on Grey Worm and kissing him for luck! But seriously, all jokes aside ... it will be the wall that changes Dany's attitude, in more ways than one. I can't get the picture of Missandei presenting the weather forecast out of my head, thank you very much! I just want to see Grey Worm wearing a parka, with his pointy spike sticking out of the hood. Someone creative needs to photoshop that pronto for our funnies library!  |
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Post by arthucus on May 30, 2015 2:47:52 GMT
I agree. Barristan and Jorah came to her because of their own free will and were kind of smitten by her. Dany has to convince Tyrion, especially since she's failing pretty bad at ruling. I really look forward to Tyrion telling her that she knows literally nothing of Westeros. Agreed. I'm also hoping that Dany tells Tyrion to stop being a mopy self-destructive git. He needs a motivational speech. Well you'll have a lot of time to drink and remember the whore you murdered WHEN YOU'RE LIVIN' IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER! |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 4:24:27 GMT
i really don't think much is going to come by this conversation between dany and tyrion. its probably going to mostly be about jorah.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 4:30:47 GMT
Agreed. I'm also hoping that Dany tells Tyrion to stop being a mopy self-destructive git. He needs a motivational speech. Well you'll have a lot of time to drink and remember the whore you murdered WHEN YOU'RE LIVIN' IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER! I don't get it. What does this mean? |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 4:31:31 GMT
Well you'll have a lot of time to drink and remember the whore you murdered WHEN YOU'RE LIVIN' IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER! I don't get it. What does this mean? It's a reference to a Chris Farley SNL sketch from the 90s. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 9:05:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 9:14:23 GMT
I demand that we refer to him as
the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, Commander of the Nightfort, Lord Brandon of House Stark.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 9:16:22 GMT
Do you think NK-LC-Bran will take part in the action, or will he just be on the cliff watching the wights and other WW fighting.
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Post by Nezzer on May 30, 2015 9:17:53 GMT
Maybe even in a few hours from now if OSN screws up again  |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 9:48:54 GMT
I hope not. I'll be avoiding the internet like it's a plague in that case.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 9:55:27 GMT
Do you think NK-LC-Bran will take part in the action, or will he just be on the cliff watching the wights and other WW fighting. I think he'll just watch from his cliff. |
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Maybe someone meek like Missandei can lean over one day and say: "Your Grace, isn't it quite cold and getting colder by the day over there in Westeros? Perhaps we should be getting some warm coats for our unsullied..." cut to Missandei buttoning up a parka on Grey Worm and kissing him for luck! 
