PREDICT: The Winds of Winter Publication

If they edit Winds like they did Dance, they could publish the book the day after GRRM finishes the final draft

I'm in the early 2016 camp for TWOW. Which is pretty fucking optimistic, I know. Martin has been busier than ever since ADWD was published with all the HBO stuff and has admitted his writing has slowed down in recent years.

It's entirely likely that his August meeting with his publishers is to discuss Knight of the Seven Kingdoms (a repackaged money grab of existing Dunk and Egg ((available for years to furriners))). Maybe he is also preparing them for an extended delay of TWOW. Who knows.

If that happens I'll laugh my ass off, realizing I've been GURMed again.

well as much as I want TWOW like last week, I hope they take their time to edit it

Lots of optimistic folk here. I don't expect to see it until late 2016 or 2017.

I've been reluctant to post in this thread, and I just figured out why. It's because I'm really not sure he's ever going to publish that book. Okay, he probably will, a rushed version, and then an announcement that the series now has an eighth book. I don't hate the guy, but somewhere along the way he crushed my hope.

Even his editor wanted him to ease up on 'words are wind.'  This is the same editor that allowed all of those Brienne chapters.  I'll admit that 'words are wind' didn't bother me as much as the endless descriptions of food.  Those made me yearn for Tolkien's descriptions of landscapes.  AFFC/ADWD are the literary equivalents of the Kill Bill films.  Some wonderful moments in both, but filled with self-indulgent padding due to the decision to split them into two.  A bit too much ego involved due to the success of the creative mind behind it all.  They should have been left as one work and been forced to cut the fat.  You'd lose some moments that the writer absolutely loved, but the audience's time is precious, and it's your duty as a storyteller to keep the story moving.

mattpeto pls

Sorry dear friend.  I think it's easier on the soul to assume we're never getting it.  When Martin isn't writing voluminous notes on his Hugo hate, he's too busy traveling.

At least we'll get the HBO version complete.  

April 2016 can't get here quick enough.

Yeah, TWoW will happen at some point in the next 2-3 years. Sadly, I don't believe ADoS will ever be released (not because of Mr Martin's age/health, but because he won't be motivated to continue writing ASoIaF after the show's finished).