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Post by Belle on Feb 8, 2017 21:35:58 GMT
in the Mercy chapter, some soldiers talk about the Queen having their heads if they don't do something. Does this happen after the last Cersei's chapter in regard with the timeline? It's been a long time since i read that chapter. Definitely after her walk of shame and after kevan's death imo. If kevan was alive cersei wouldn't have that kind of power. Honestly it seems that GRRM puts cersei in power before d&d do oops. Worg will be so triggered
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Post by TheMadQueen on Feb 8, 2017 21:39:10 GMT
Does this happen after the last Cersei's chapter in regard with the timeline? It's been a long time since i read that chapter. Definitely after her walk of shame and after kevan's death imo. If kevan was alive cersei wouldn't have that kind of power. Honestly it seems that GRRM puts cersei in power before d&d do oops. Worg will be so triggered and i will love it. someone was making up dialogue that never happened last night and i cried
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Post by Belle on Feb 8, 2017 21:45:57 GMT
Definitely after her walk of shame and after kevan's death imo. If kevan was alive cersei wouldn't have that kind of power. Honestly it seems that GRRM puts cersei in power before d&d do oops. Worg will be so triggered and i will love it. someone was making up dialogue that never happened last night and i cried And this is after book cersei does much crazier things than show cersei. never forget book cersei's crazy scheme with framing marge for adultery lmfao. Book cersei just won't get revenge in the same way that show cersei will. I don't think the sept is burning in the books. And neither do I think she'll burn KL like the mad king at the end of TWOW. I wonder wtf she'll do
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Post by Singer of Death on Feb 8, 2017 21:47:31 GMT
Definitely after her walk of shame and after kevan's death imo. If kevan was alive cersei wouldn't have that kind of power. Honestly it seems that GRRM puts cersei in power before d&d do oops. Worg will be so triggered and i will love it. someone was making up dialogue that never happened last night and i cried Wasn't that the poster who said fAegon would come in Dorne and say "Fire and Blood" to Jaime if D&D put him in the show? lol Cuz i laughed at that post.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Feb 8, 2017 21:47:54 GMT
and i will love it. someone was making up dialogue that never happened last night and i cried And this is after book cersei does much crazier things than show cersei. never forget book cersei's crazy scheme with framing marge for adultery lmfao. Book cersei just won't get revenge in the same way that show cersei will. I don't think the sept is burning in the books. And neither do I think she'll burn KL like the mad king at the end of TWOW. I wonder wtf she'll do idk i think she's blowing something up. but i think she'll have the trial and win the books.
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Post by Singer of Death on Feb 8, 2017 21:49:02 GMT
and i will love it. someone was making up dialogue that never happened last night and i cried And this is after book cersei does much crazier things than show cersei. never forget book cersei's crazy scheme with framing marge for adultery lmfao. Book cersei just won't get revenge in the same way that show cersei will. I don't think the sept is burning in the books. And neither do I think she'll burn KL like the mad king at the end of TWOW. I wonder wtf she'll do Nah. I think she will burn the sept and Marg. Just that it won't be the same exactly when fAegon arrive.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Feb 8, 2017 21:49:14 GMT
and i will love it. someone was making up dialogue that never happened last night and i cried Wasn't that the poster who said fAegon would come in Dorne and say "Fire and Blood" to Jaime if D&D put him in the show? lol Cuz i laughed at that post. no that was someone else, but i remember that. i was the one who commented about spitting my drink out lol. i can't tell if he was trolling or if he genuinely thought that was a good idea. no some other poster told me that when ned confronted cersei in the garden, he told her the only reason he let robert become king was because of his targ lineage. BITCH WHERE.
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Post by Belle on Feb 8, 2017 21:51:52 GMT
And this is after book cersei does much crazier things than show cersei. never forget book cersei's crazy scheme with framing marge for adultery lmfao. Book cersei just won't get revenge in the same way that show cersei will. I don't think the sept is burning in the books. And neither do I think she'll burn KL like the mad king at the end of TWOW. I wonder wtf she'll do idk i think she's blowing something up. but i think she'll have the trial and win the books. Yeah trial by combat will definitely happen in the books imo. I still think lancel will be the champion of the faith.
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Post by Singer of Death on Feb 8, 2017 21:51:53 GMT
Wasn't that the poster who said fAegon would come in Dorne and say "Fire and Blood" to Jaime if D&D put him in the show? lol Cuz i laughed at that post. no that was someone else, but i remember that. i was the one who commented about spitting my drink out lol. i can't tell if he was trolling or if he genuinely thought that was a good idea. no some other poster told me that when ned confronted cersei in the garden, he told her the only reason he let robert become king was because of his targ lineage. BITCH WHERE. To be fair, i think that person meant that the Baratheon did trace their linage to Orys who was said to be the bastard of a Targ. So the Baratheon did somewhat have claim to the throne. But, it's mostly that Ned crown Robert cuz he usurp the throne.
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Post by Belle on Feb 8, 2017 21:52:17 GMT
And this is after book cersei does much crazier things than show cersei. never forget book cersei's crazy scheme with framing marge for adultery lmfao. Book cersei just won't get revenge in the same way that show cersei will. I don't think the sept is burning in the books. And neither do I think she'll burn KL like the mad king at the end of TWOW. I wonder wtf she'll do Nah. I think she will burn the sept and Marg. Just that it won't be the same exactly when fAegon arrive. The wildfire underneath the sept was moved in ACOK
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Post by TheMadQueen on Feb 8, 2017 21:53:38 GMT
no that was someone else, but i remember that. i was the one who commented about spitting my drink out lol. i can't tell if he was trolling or if he genuinely thought that was a good idea. no some other poster told me that when ned confronted cersei in the garden, he told her the only reason he let robert become king was because of his targ lineage. BITCH WHERE. To be fair, i think that person meant that the Baratheon did trace their linage to Orys who was said to be the bastard of a Targ. So the Baratheon did somewhat have claim to the throne. But, it's mostly that Ned crown Robert cuz he usurp the throne. well yeah he was referring to bobert being a distant targaryen, but he was pulling out lines of dialogue that didn't exist
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Post by Singer of Death on Feb 8, 2017 21:55:54 GMT
To be fair, i think that person meant that the Baratheon did trace their linage to Orys who was said to be the bastard of a Targ. So the Baratheon did somewhat have claim to the throne. But, it's mostly that Ned crown Robert cuz he usurp the throne. well yeah he was referring to bobert being a distant targaryen, but he was pulling out lines of dialogue that didn't exist I'm curious, what was the dialogue? Nah. I think she will burn the sept and Marg. Just that it won't be the same exactly when fAegon arrive. The wildfire underneath the sept was moved in ACOK Cersei can always assign people to move the wildfire back underneath the sept tho.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Feb 8, 2017 21:58:37 GMT
well yeah he was referring to bobert being a distant targaryen, but he was pulling out lines of dialogue that didn't exist I'm curious, what was the dialogue? The wildfire underneath the sept was moved in ACOK Cersei can always assign people to move the wildfire back underneath the sept tho. that when cersei asked ned why he didn't take the throne for himself after jaime killed the mad king, ned told her that "robert had the better claim" apparently that line was paraphrased from another scene, but he was really going in on me with fake stuff.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Feb 8, 2017 22:28:18 GMT
None of this ships are really deserved if they happen on the show, especially not Jaime/Brienne. The sad-romantic farewell as Brienne sailed from Riverrun was nice and all, but doesn't fit with the way D&D have handled the characters. In the books their relationship feels much more deserved, and I think we will get something - depending how LSH turns out of course! I don't have any investment in the others happening. But since none of them have seen each other since, like, season 3 on the show, it shouldn't work. I really don't get the appeal of Jaime/Brienne ship. I mean sure, their interaction is fine and all, but why do people take it so romantic if they have little romantic chemistry. Jaime abandoned Cersei and all, but it's not like he's thinking interestingly in Brienne and vice versa. Even more so on the show when they present their relationship as friendship. I mean, why can they just be friends instead of "dude and chick automatically have to be together cuz tension and bickering". I admit, that's something i at least appreciated the show for not giving in their fans' demand for headcanons. Well, minus Jonerys... I have always thought that at least Dany would have to sacrifice herself for the survival of Westeros. I would not mind if both Jon and Dany die but I think with those two being the last two Targs (whether Jon's parentage stays knowledge of readers only and doesn't go to characters in the book remains to be seen), I don't think GRRM wipes out the Targ line. The show on the other hand, I can't see D&D offing them both. I think D&D would keep Dany alive and off Jon even if GRRM does the opposite in the books. As for Jaime, I could see him dying a heroic death, probably the last season and last book. If one of them is going to live, i betting my money on Jon. Dany's death kinda had been predicted since the HOTU prophecy where she was with Drogo and their son. But still, do think both of them going to die and the Targ bloodline will be extinct. I doubt it's GRMM's way to keep the Targs family alive since he studied medieval history. He also said he knows who will sit on the Iron Throne in the ending. Even though i really want the Iron Throne to be burn down, but after reports that Gendry is coming back, he may be the one to sit on it to continue the Baratheon dynasty. There are fairly obvious romantic undertones to Jaime and Brienne's relationship in the book. The most obvious, on Brienne's part, is where she tries to bring Renly (whom she was in love with) to mind, but cannot tear her mind away from Jaime. And then the way she talks of him in her unconscious state when the BwB takes her. Similarly, Jaime's reaction when Red Ronnet is mocking Brienne is very telling, as are the majority's of his thoughts about her. It starts very early too. From telling her the truth of Aerys, to "I dreamed of you" when he rescues her from Harrenhal and his entrusting the finding and protection of Sansa to her. Not to mention his dreams of her. Don't have the books to hand to quote from, but this is one of the more explicitly developing relationships in the book - so much so that I'm always surprised to see people try and dispute it. It's not even a ship I like - I don't like Jaime, and think Brienne deserves way better. But it's difficult to deny the feelings that developed between them.
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Post by Belle on Feb 8, 2017 23:20:33 GMT
I really don't get the appeal of Jaime/Brienne ship. I mean sure, their interaction is fine and all, but why do people take it so romantic if they have little romantic chemistry. Jaime abandoned Cersei and all, but it's not like he's thinking interestingly in Brienne and vice versa. Even more so on the show when they present their relationship as friendship. I mean, why can they just be friends instead of "dude and chick automatically have to be together cuz tension and bickering". I admit, that's something i at least appreciated the show for not giving in their fans' demand for headcanons. Well, minus Jonerys... If one of them is going to live, i betting my money on Jon. Dany's death kinda had been predicted since the HOTU prophecy where she was with Drogo and their son. But still, do think both of them going to die and the Targ bloodline will be extinct. I doubt it's GRMM's way to keep the Targs family alive since he studied medieval history. He also said he knows who will sit on the Iron Throne in the ending. Even though i really want the Iron Throne to be burn down, but after reports that Gendry is coming back, he may be the one to sit on it to continue the Baratheon dynasty. There are fairly obvious romantic undertones to Jaime and Brienne's relationship in the book. The most obvious, on Brienne's part, is where she tries to bring Renly (whom she was in love with) to mind, but cannot tear her mind away from Jaime. And then the way she talks of him in her unconscious state when the BwB takes her. Similarly, Jaime's reaction when Red Ronnet is mocking Brienne is very telling, as are the majority's of his thoughts about her. It starts very early too. From telling her the truth of Aerys, to "I dreamed of you" when he rescues her from Harrenhal and his entrusting the finding and protection of Sansa to her. Not to mention his dreams of her. Don't have the books to hand to quote from, but this is one of the more explicitly developing relationships in the book - so much so that I'm always surprised to see people try and dispute it. It's not even a ship I like - I don't like Jaime, and think Brienne deserves way better. But it's difficult to deny the feelings that developed between them. I agree with all this, but I still don't like Jaime/Brienne romantically, the good girl saves the bad guy ships don't do much for me. Jaime/cersei is much more interesting in the books to me
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Post by milica on Feb 11, 2017 19:37:10 GMT
I'm bored. So i just gonna asks you guys a question to spare us from the lack of WotW's news and reports: Which characters do you think are going to survive at the end of the show? Jon and Sansa for sure. Abd Tyrion as well.
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Post by milica on Feb 11, 2017 19:41:52 GMT
Just wait until D&D fuck up Cersei's death scene lol. No way. Every big death scene was great.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Feb 11, 2017 20:15:51 GMT
Just wait until D&D fuck up Cersei's death scene lol. No way. Every big death scene was great. *cough* Stannis *cough*
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Post by TheMadQueen on Feb 11, 2017 20:28:35 GMT
No way. Every big death scene was great. *cough* Stannis *cough* hey they can't all be winners
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Post by Belle on Feb 11, 2017 20:58:38 GMT
I think d&d like cersei much more than Stannis thankfully
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