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Post by boojam on Jul 1, 2016 13:44:18 GMT
I'm worry that Sapochnik won't be work with them in S7, maybe he will return in S8? I hope so. But Michele Clapton is official back I can't figure what costumes April Ferry designed, Clapton seemed to have done everything even if she didn't do season 6, except that she did do some season 6. The only thing about Braavos I didn't like was the costumes in the House of Black and White, they seemed like some kind of weird camouflage ponchos ... and the ladies wore the most pedestrian 'official' acolyte gear.
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 1, 2016 14:15:33 GMT
Michelle MacLaren is great, I'd love for her to direct again.
HBO's silence screams "We need to make sure Westworld is a hit" to me.
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Post by Admin on Jul 3, 2016 12:14:33 GMT
Michelle MacLaren is great, I'd love for her to direct again. HBO's silence screams "We need to make sure Westworld is a hit" to me. It's insane how much relies on this one show If it doesn't get a good reception or at least good numbers there is gonna be such a panic over there
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Post by Steve Stark on Jul 3, 2016 15:47:01 GMT
I'm worry that Sapochnik won't be work with them in S7, maybe he will return in S8? I hope so. But Michele Clapton is official back I can't figure what costumes April Ferry designed, Clapton seemed to have done everything even if she didn't do season 6, except that she did do some season 6. The only thing about Braavos I didn't like was the costumes in the House of Black and White, they seemed like some kind of weird camouflage ponchos ... and the ladies wore the most pedestrian 'official' acolyte gear.
Oh good, I'm not the only one.
I mean, how do you make Jaqen, a mysteriously badass assassin, look so stupid? Those costumes were lame. It honestly ruined most of those scenes for me, as I couldn't take them seriously when they walked around in beggar-camo ponchos.
I also wasn't into the Wildling costumes, but got used to them. Mostly because of Tormund and Mance. They made everything authentic somehow.
And the Thenns. Completely butchered.
The rest of the show's costume design was outstanding.
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Post by Admin on Jul 3, 2016 16:38:38 GMT
I can't figure what costumes April Ferry designed, Clapton seemed to have done everything even if she didn't do season 6, except that she did do some season 6. The only thing about Braavos I didn't like was the costumes in the House of Black and White, they seemed like some kind of weird camouflage ponchos ... and the ladies wore the most pedestrian 'official' acolyte gear.
Oh good, I'm not the only one.
I mean, how do you make Jaqen, a mysteriously badass assassin, look so stupid? Those costumes were lame. It honestly ruined most of those scenes for me, as I couldn't take them seriously when they walked around in beggar-camo ponchos.
I also wasn't into the Wildling costumes, but got used to them. Mostly because of Tormund and Mance. They made everything authentic somehow.
And the Thenns. Completely butchered.
The rest of the show's costume design was outstanding.
Also the fact that Jaqen appeared to be in charge of 2 chicks who had no regard for whatever he said or wanted didn't help I don't think we will see Bravos again, which is a shame because other than HobaW I really liked the costumes and the production design there. But they can go crazy in Oldtown, let's see what they do there.
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Post by Steve Stark on Jul 3, 2016 16:44:22 GMT
Oh good, I'm not the only one.
I mean, how do you make Jaqen, a mysteriously badass assassin, look so stupid? Those costumes were lame. It honestly ruined most of those scenes for me, as I couldn't take them seriously when they walked around in beggar-camo ponchos.
I also wasn't into the Wildling costumes, but got used to them. Mostly because of Tormund and Mance. They made everything authentic somehow.
And the Thenns. Completely butchered.
The rest of the show's costume design was outstanding.
Also the fact that Jaqen appeared to be in charge of 2 chicks who had no regard for whatever he said or wanted didn't help I don't think we will see Bravos again, which is a shame because other than HobaW I really liked the costumes and the production design there. But they can go crazy in Oldtown, let's see what they do there. Oh no, I didn't even think about that. Well fuck me..."bye Bravos".
Yeah, those sets with the harbor were really good.
Oldtown looks pretty badass. I still think they kind of over did themselves with the library though. I know it's supposed to be impressive....but it was a bit much, honestly. And worse, D&D and the writers will just use it as a magical box of "please help me fill this gap" for the story. I hope I'm wrong. But I could easily see them doing this. I could throw examples out there, but I don't want to be petty.
But if he picks up a book and says "Oh, a history about a woman with a heart of stone", I will go on a fucking face punching spree.
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Post by Enid on Jul 6, 2016 19:23:44 GMT
Season 7 will premiere later that usualAbout Clapton: I usually like her designs, but agreed that the FM costumes were lame. They had a fucking bib. They look silly. And I'm not that hyped about her return, April Ferry did a good job with the Tarly dresses and I think she cares about giving all the characters new clothes from time to time instead of spending most of the budget in a few characters, like Clapton tends to do(forever bitter Arya spend three whole seasons in the same outfit and that no one though to get Gilly out of the potato sack until Sam's sister met her).
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Post by boojam on Jul 6, 2016 21:04:27 GMT
Oh good, I'm not the only one.
I mean, how do you make Jaqen, a mysteriously badass assassin, look so stupid? Those costumes were lame. It honestly ruined most of those scenes for me, as I couldn't take them seriously when they walked around in beggar-camo ponchos.
I also wasn't into the Wildling costumes, but got used to them. Mostly because of Tormund and Mance. They made everything authentic somehow.
And the Thenns. Completely butchered.
The rest of the show's costume design was outstanding.
Also the fact that Jaqen appeared to be in charge of 2 chicks who had no regard for whatever he said or wanted didn't help I don't think we will see Bravos again, which is a shame because other than HobaW I really liked the costumes and the production design there. But they can go crazy in Oldtown, let's see what they do there. The whole HoB&W thing was weird. There is one sequence of Jaqen doing H&W biz and one history lesson he gives to Arya, and he is proactive at the end of season 5. Then one can't figure what he is doing in season 6. Then , the last scene with Arya he is left with his mysterious smile (Tom Wlaschiha is really good at facial expressions) as if saying "looks like Arya turned out how we wanted her to." I really wonder if we have seen the last of Braavos since the Iron Bank could be back in play later. Plus Wlaschiha has intimated that the FM are still not done with Arya. Tho Jaqen may turn up in Westeros for that.
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Post by boojam on Jul 6, 2016 21:07:46 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jul 7, 2016 9:08:17 GMT
Summary: Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4rfyo6/no_spoilers_game_of_throes_show_creators_david/d50t1ik Highlights: •They regret not showing the Battle of the Green Fork in season 1. They ran out of money and couldn't do it •Them and GRRM have had disagreements. But, GRRM understands why they make certain changes for the TV show format. • Characters they miss after having killed them off: Jason Momoa as Khal Drogo, Jack Gleeson as Joffrey • Battle of the Bastards was hard to film because of the time/money constraints. They didn't have the time for a battle like this in season 1. They praised Miguel Sapochnik for how he directed the episode. They especially liked the scene where Jon was being crushed under the bodies and trying to climb his way out. • They confirm that there are only two more seasons are left • They don't have a definite episode count for the seasons, but they will be shorter than 10 episodes • They know the ending already (duh) • 90% of season 6 was material beyond ADWD, in their opinion • They haven't thought of a prequel that in-depth due to their workload. But they understand that the world of asoiaf has a lot of possibilities for potential prequels. They haven't thought about the details of a prequel. • He didn't want to say how GRRM felt about Jon's resurrection because it might spoil something from TWOW • They learned of Hodor's name's origin from GRRM. They know more important information about the rest of the story for each of the characters. They acknowledge that GRRM is a "gardening" style of writer, but them as showrunners have to be "architects" due to the amount of pre-planning that has to go into creating a TV show • If they needed to, they could write the final episode right now because they know exactly where the show is heading • HBO has never interfered with any of the showrunners' decisions with deaths and plots in the show. They will not interfere with their plans for the show. • Gendry is still rowing • Season 7 will probably air later than the normal season starting time, because they need more winter-y environments and weather to film in for next season
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 7, 2016 12:50:10 GMT
Dance of the Dragons series confirmed
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Jul 7, 2016 16:57:24 GMT
Season 7 will premiere later that usualAbout Clapton: I usually like her designs, but agreed that the FM costumes were lame. They had a fucking bib. They look silly. And I'm not that hyped about her return, April Ferry did a good job with the Tarly dresses and I think she cares about giving all the characters new clothes from time to time instead of spending most of the budget in a few characters, like Clapton tends to do(forever bitter Arya spend three whole seasons in the same outfit and that no one though to get Gilly out of the potato sack until Sam's sister met her). We probably have a year of waiting left
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 7, 2016 17:17:28 GMT
@alcasinoroyale is still around to update the OP of this thread, right? I haven't seen him in ages.
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Post by Admin on Jul 7, 2016 18:35:42 GMT
@alcasinoroyale is still around to update the OP of this thread, right? I haven't seen him in ages. No worries, I update it.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jul 7, 2016 22:59:39 GMT
Summary: Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4rfyo6/no_spoilers_game_of_throes_show_creators_david/d50t1ik Highlights: •They regret not showing the Battle of the Green Fork in season 1. They ran out of money and couldn't do it •Them and GRRM have had disagreements. But, GRRM understands why they make certain changes for the TV show format. • Characters they miss after having killed them off: Jason Momoa as Khal Drogo, Jack Gleeson as Joffrey • Battle of the Bastards was hard to film because of the time/money constraints. They didn't have the time for a battle like this in season 1. They praised Miguel Sapochnik for how he directed the episode. They especially liked the scene where Jon was being crushed under the bodies and trying to climb his way out. • They confirm that there are only two more seasons are left • They don't have a definite episode count for the seasons, but they will be shorter than 10 episodes • They know the ending already (duh) • 90% of season 6 was material beyond ADWD, in their opinion • They haven't thought of a prequel that in-depth due to their workload. But they understand that the world of asoiaf has a lot of possibilities for potential prequels. They haven't thought about the details of a prequel. • He didn't want to say how GRRM felt about Jon's resurrection because it might spoil something from TWOW • They learned of Hodor's name's origin from GRRM. They know more important information about the rest of the story for each of the characters. They acknowledge that GRRM is a "gardening" style of writer, but them as showrunners have to be "architects" due to the amount of pre-planning that has to go into creating a TV show • If they needed to, they could write the final episode right now because they know exactly where the show is heading • HBO has never interfered with any of the showrunners' decisions with deaths and plots in the show. They will not interfere with their plans for the show. • Gendry is still rowing • Season 7 will probably air later than the normal season starting time, because they need more winter-y environments and weather to film in for next season Thanks for this! Couple of takeaways I had from this. 1) I find it a bit concerning they don't know how many episodes they will do yet, when you consider they must be starting to write now. I think the pacing will suffer if they write material that fits in X number of episodes but it actually turns out there is y number of episodes. IMO part of why season 5 suffered was because they rushed through stuff thinking they only had 2 seasons left, when it was later revealed they had 3. This might just be baseless worrying from me though 2) That they didn't want to talk about GRRMs reaction to Jon's resurrection because it might spoil something from the books implies to me that there may be some considerable difference in the books. Likely it is more momentous and/or some revelation is tied to it. I don't think that is particularly difficult though, since Jon's resurrection was actually a bit of a letdown on the show, with very little in terms of repercussions on his personality, or even reaction from those around him.
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Post by Singer of Death on Jul 7, 2016 23:23:59 GMT
Regarding Jon's resurrection and GRMM's opinion, this may have something to do with in book, Jon warg into Ghost before returning to his body during resurrection, which the show omit due to the series heading toward a more realism aspect rather than fantasy (only Bran is seen warging in the show).
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Post by Admin on Jul 8, 2016 8:58:20 GMT
I think it would be smart of them to write all the remaining stuff already. Then closer to production they could decide what they shoot for season 7 and what for season 8. The scripts being ready is not a problem, because they can still change stuff, but once they head into actual shooting of scenes they better have some sort of plan. The series already suffered after their meeting with Martin after season 3. With production like this you should have the main outline before season 1. Not change it every two years depending on circumstances
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Post by boojam on Jul 8, 2016 9:14:56 GMT
Regarding Jon's resurrection and GRMM's opinion, this may have something to do with in book, Jon warg into Ghost before returning to his body during resurrection, which the show omit due to the series heading toward a more realism aspect rather than fantasy (only Bran is seen warging in the show). D&D take an odd approach to the story, they embrace the dragons (sort of) and Bran's 'psi' abilities.... but eschew Arya's warging, as one example. In the books GRRM treats Arya's ability kind of Warg-Lite ... it's a nice little character touch. I don't know if they consider it too much of a complication as visual narrative or they just don't like it? Maybe they don't understand George's construct. I notice they miss a beat like this now and then and it is puzzling. They have shown they can improve on the story elements and even trump GRRM, Arya's one-on-one with Tywin in season 2 is cleaver and nuanced. Dany's hiding her Valyrian in season 3 first four episodes upstaged George's scene from the books. Even after 6 seasons D&D seem subject to seams and continuity problems , maybe the whole thing is too fatiguing for two people. Seems in the past stories surfaced how Byran Cogman and Dave Hill did to Fix-up on the teleplays , heard less of that last two seasons.
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Post by Admin on Jul 8, 2016 9:18:00 GMT
Regarding Jon's resurrection and GRMM's opinion, this may have something to do with in book, Jon warg into Ghost before returning to his body during resurrection, which the show omit due to the series heading toward a more realism aspect rather than fantasy (only Bran is seen warging in the show). D&D take an odd approach to the story, they embrace the dragons (sort of) and Bran's 'psi' abilities.... but eschew Arya's warging, as one example. In the books GRRM treats Arya's ability kind of Warg-Lite ... it's a nice little character touch. I don't know if they consider it too much of a complication as visual narrative or they just don't like it? Maybe they don't understand George's construct.I notice they miss a beat like this now and then and it is puzzling. They have shown they can improve on the story elements and even trump GRRM, Arya's one-on-one with Tywin in season 2 is cleaver and nuanced. Dany's hiding her Valyrian in season 3 first four episodes upstaged George's scene from the books. Even after 6 seasons D&D seem subject to seams and continuity problems , maybe the whole thing is too fatiguing for two people. Seems in the past stories surfaced how Byran Cogman and Dave Hill did to Fix-up on the teleplays , heard less of that last two seasons. Maybe it's to do with how difficult CGI for direwolves is, since Bran moves on to trees and so far has the biggest warging narrative they decided to just feature this for him
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 8, 2016 9:19:40 GMT
I'm feeling 8 episodes a season.
Season 7- Daenerys invasion, WW breach the wall, fall of Queen Cersei
Season 8- the Long Night
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