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Post by TheKittenGuard on Jun 2, 2016 17:45:16 GMT
Now that Tommen's all ride or die with the High Sparrow, I'm questioning the suicide rumor. Given his present state, he seems much more likely to try to persecute Cersei then just get all mopey and jump out a window. i was thinking this too. i could believe that tommen would turn jaime away bc of the high sparrow and margaery's influence because tommen isn't really close with jaime and jaime doesn't really try to manipulate him. but cersei? i know he's slowly realizing more and more that cersei is very ruthless. but i still think he loves her a lot. i could see the high sparrow and margaery convincing tommen that cersei deserves to die so not let her have a trial by combat. margaery foolishly believing that his love for her is greater than his love for cersei. because honestly when you think about it, it makes no sense that tommen would not be at cersei's trial especially if he's allied himself with the faith. and as crazy as cersei is, i don't see her blowing up the sept of baelor KNOWING that tommen is in there. Kevan would not of been trying to persuade Tommen from Tywinn's wish either. Jamie out of the KG made several people happy. I do not see Tommen in any manner be able to use violence against anyone, let alone his mother.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 2, 2016 17:45:44 GMT
IMO, Cersei has been at her most interesting. She's never been this subdued. She's like a bottle, and that's why her going bonkers is going to make so much sense to me. Agreed. It's one of her best seasons imo, and it's only getting better. I can 1000% appreciate all the subdued anger and nuance in her scenes right now. But I'm ready for her to snap already lol.
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Post by Belle on Jun 2, 2016 17:53:43 GMT
i was thinking this too. i could believe that tommen would turn jaime away bc of the high sparrow and margaery's influence because tommen isn't really close with jaime and jaime doesn't really try to manipulate him. but cersei? i know he's slowly realizing more and more that cersei is very ruthless. but i still think he loves her a lot. i could see the high sparrow and margaery convincing tommen that cersei deserves to die so not let her have a trial by combat. margaery foolishly believing that his love for her is greater than his love for cersei. because honestly when you think about it, it makes no sense that tommen would not be at cersei's trial especially if he's allied himself with the faith. and as crazy as cersei is, i don't see her blowing up the sept of baelor KNOWING that tommen is in there. Kevan would not of been trying to persuade Tommen from Tywinn's wish either. Jamie out of the KG made several people happy. I do not see Tommen in any manner be able to use violence against anyone, let alone his mother. seriously and tommen looked conflicted even sending jaime away. think about it...... tommen NOT being at cersei's trial....makes no sense cersei burning the sept of baelor with tommen inside.....makes no sense it doesn't add up that tommen is going to commit suicide after cersei's attack. and the only reason i can think of him doing it before is because of high sparrow "we're sinners we all deserve death speech" which will probably be him manipulating to NOT let cersei have a trial by combat........which will lead to tommen killing himself because he's essentially allowed the high sparrow to kill his mother
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 2, 2016 17:56:30 GMT
Kevan would not of been trying to persuade Tommen from Tywinn's wish either. Jamie out of the KG made several people happy. I do not see Tommen in any manner be able to use violence against anyone, let alone his mother. seriously and tommen looked conflicted even sending jaime away. think about it...... tommen NOT being at cersei's trial....makes no sense cersei burning the sept of baelor with tommen inside.....makes no sense it doesn't add up that tommen is going to commit suicide after cersei's attack. and the only reason i can think of him doing it before is because of high sparrow "we're sinners we all deserve death speech" which will probably be him manipulating to NOT let cersei have a trial by combat........which will lead to tommen killing himself because he's essentially allowed the high sparrow to kill his mother I think it will be Margaery who influences Tommen to deny trial by combat. She wants Cersei dead more than anybody.
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Post by Belle on Jun 2, 2016 18:04:18 GMT
seriously and tommen looked conflicted even sending jaime away. think about it...... tommen NOT being at cersei's trial....makes no sense cersei burning the sept of baelor with tommen inside.....makes no sense it doesn't add up that tommen is going to commit suicide after cersei's attack. and the only reason i can think of him doing it before is because of high sparrow "we're sinners we all deserve death speech" which will probably be him manipulating to NOT let cersei have a trial by combat........which will lead to tommen killing himself because he's essentially allowed the high sparrow to kill his mother I think it will be Margaery who influences Tommen to deny trial by combat. She wants Cersei dead more than anybody. BOTH margaery and the high sparrow imo. and margaery will say shit like "i'm sure your mom is innocent and will be fine and free of the charges" tommen has slowly been realizing cersei's not so innocent, will realize that he's basically condemned his mom to death. will kill himself.
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Post by Belle on Jun 2, 2016 18:17:43 GMT
i think the high sparrow's new target in ep 7 will be cersei.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 2, 2016 18:21:51 GMT
Yeah probably Cersei again. Maybe this will be the ep he denies TBC.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 18:27:05 GMT
Could be Loras too.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 2, 2016 18:43:13 GMT
Wait ur probably right. Loras still needs to get his haircut this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 19:42:41 GMT
Especially if he's making him the Faith's champion against Cersei.
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Post by Admin on Jun 2, 2016 19:50:36 GMT
Especially if he's making him the Faith's champion against Cersei. I'm not sure if they would wanna do that. I mean the way Loras was before Gregor would take one look at him and Loras would shit himself but now?
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 2, 2016 19:58:41 GMT
Especially if he's making him the Faith's champion against Cersei. why would the hs want cersei to win a trial by combat?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 20:00:32 GMT
Or he could be one of the Seven champions if they go that route. But anyway, we know the trial's not actually going down anyways.
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Post by Belle on Jun 2, 2016 20:04:21 GMT
Especially if he's making him the Faith's champion against Cersei. thats not going to happen. according to truede, cersei is denied trial by combat
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 20:05:47 GMT
Especially if he's making him the Faith's champion against Cersei. thats not going to happen. according to truede, cersei is denied trial by combat So the trial she's awaiting in Sept in the finale is just a judgement with seven septons, I guess then. If Truede's right about this, that is.
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Post by Belle on Jun 2, 2016 20:16:15 GMT
thats not going to happen. according to truede, cersei is denied trial by combat So the trial she's awaiting in Sept in the finale is just a judgement with seven septons, I guess then. If Truede's right about this, that is. yeah she's probably just being judged by the faith. no trial by combat
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 2, 2016 20:18:25 GMT
thats not going to happen. according to truede, cersei is denied trial by combat So the trial she's awaiting in Sept in the finale is just a judgement with seven septons, I guess then. If Truede's right about this, that is. that makes a lot more sense. marg's alliance should be about protecting loras, not getting him killed. killing tyrells is cersei's business.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 20:40:51 GMT
Do we have any information if Mace the Ace survives the season or not?
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Post by Belle on Jun 2, 2016 20:42:32 GMT
Do we have any information if Mace the Ace survives the season or not? he dies in the wildfire sept attack
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on Jun 2, 2016 20:47:31 GMT
Do we have any information if Mace the Ace survives the season or not? he dies in the wildfire sept attack Has this been confirmed, though?
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