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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 17:06:49 GMT
Does everyone agree btw that the Wall falling will be the final scene of the season? Eh... I thought about it, but I honestly now get the feeling the WW stuff in the trailers is them coming after Bran and BloodRaven, maybe after he spots Bran in the vision? The background is a little like what we see in 4x10. This one is a bit spoilerish. You've been warned Other than the White Walker set they apparently had in NI, and the stuff in the trailer, there's been no mention of the wall falling down. Considering how big that would have to be on screen, I feel like if something that big happened we probably would have heard about it, or someone would have leaked some sort of detail... I hope it does, but I'm not convinced. I think we'll have both. The WW stepping through fire is them attacking Bloodraven's cave, and the army shot from one of the promos is when they attack the Wall.
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on Apr 29, 2016 17:14:19 GMT
But really, I don't think the S6 finale will be 72 mins, as good as that would be. I'd say 60 - 65. The series is moving in a direction that, without going into leaks, will end up grouping a lot of characters and bringing the major players together. It just needs to be long enough to set up the next big moment for next series, which will likely be the White Walkers and Night's King. If so, I think we will see most of the stuff in Mereen tied up, at last, the Dornish stuff (hopefully) swept away and King's Landing, for the most part over. Didn't D&D say they only had 13 hours worth of content left? I suggest they devise a Stannis/Robert/Renly ghost sequence. Like the three stooges. The three stags! Yeah I think by the end of the season we'll have The North, Bran, KL, The Riverlands, Oldtown, Dorne (if it still has to fucking exist), and Meereen, but I think Dany and Tyrion will at least be planning to sail for Westeros. I agree with @rooseisazorhai that The Wall coming down could potentially be the last scene of S6. 13 hours of content doesn't really give a whole lot of time for Dany to interact with characters in Westeros, but if she arrives there maybe Episode 3 or 4 of S7, that's still leaves a decent amount left. Hopefully when they are revising the scripts, they extend it to 15 or 16 hours of content, but we'll see. A Baratheon ghost sequence would be pretty amusing and Gendry is still rowin' somewhere out there so they should address that too. I'm sure they'll flesh it out as much as they can. There are still some things left to happen, and we still need to see the interaction between Tyrion and whatever Lannisters are left standing. Who knows, maybe Dany bumps into Gendry in the middle of the smoking sea? Eh... I thought about it, but I honestly now get the feeling the WW stuff in the trailers is them coming after Bran and BloodRaven, maybe after he spots Bran in the vision? The background is a little like what we see in 4x10. This one is a bit spoilerish. You've been warned Other than the White Walker set they apparently had in NI, and the stuff in the trailer, there's been no mention of the wall falling down. Considering how big that would have to be on screen, I feel like if something that big happened we probably would have heard about it, or someone would have leaked some sort of detail... I hope it does, but I'm not convinced. I think we'll have both. The WW stepping through fire is them attacking Bloodraven's cave, and the army shot from one of the promos is when they attack the Wall. I hope we do, my only thing is, as soon as that wall falls, we need to get straight into the fight against the White Walkers. I'm assuming this pretty much confirms that Dany's dream about confronting the army of ice at the trident in the books is pretty much gonna be the end of the series, or at least the final battle. If thats the case, does that mean Jon and the other characters in the north are wiped out?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 17:23:53 GMT
Yeah I think by the end of the season we'll have The North, Bran, KL, The Riverlands, Oldtown, Dorne (if it still has to fucking exist), and Meereen, but I think Dany and Tyrion will at least be planning to sail for Westeros. I agree with @rooseisazorhai that The Wall coming down could potentially be the last scene of S6. 13 hours of content doesn't really give a whole lot of time for Dany to interact with characters in Westeros, but if she arrives there maybe Episode 3 or 4 of S7, that's still leaves a decent amount left. Hopefully when they are revising the scripts, they extend it to 15 or 16 hours of content, but we'll see. A Baratheon ghost sequence would be pretty amusing and Gendry is still rowin' somewhere out there so they should address that too. I'm sure they'll flesh it out as much as they can. There are still some things left to happen, and we still need to see the interaction between Tyrion and whatever Lannisters are left standing. Who knows, maybe Dany bumps into Gendry in the middle of the smoking sea? I think we'll have both. The WW stepping through fire is them attacking Bloodraven's cave, and the army shot from one of the promos is when they attack the Wall. I hope we do, my only thing is, as soon as that wall falls, we need to get straight into the fight against the White Walkers. I'm assuming this pretty much confirms that Dany's dream about confronting the army of ice at the trident in the books is pretty much gonna be the end of the series, or at least the final battle. If thats the case, does that mean Jon and the other characters in the north are wiped out? We don't, really. It's not like the WW are fast at moving. They'd destroy the North one castle by one. The North storyline in S7 would be the human characters running away from the White Walkers, while Dany, Euron, and the Lannisters are warring in the south. I expect the "final battle" (if we get any, which I am not sure of) to end with the WW winning. The men surrender, and they make peace. Jon becomes the new NK, the current one will be slain in battle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 17:36:29 GMT
Eh... I thought about it, but I honestly now get the feeling the WW stuff in the trailers is them coming after Bran and BloodRaven, maybe after he spots Bran in the vision? The background is a little like what we see in 4x10. This one is a bit spoilerish. You've been warned Other than the White Walker set they apparently had in NI, and the stuff in the trailer, there's been no mention of the wall falling down. Considering how big that would have to be on screen, I feel like if something that big happened we probably would have heard about it, or someone would have leaked some sort of detail... I hope it does, but I'm not convinced. I think we'll have both. The WW stepping through fire is them attacking Bloodraven's cave, and the army shot from one of the promos is when they attack the Wall. My guess is that this is the order is goes in. Bran sees a vision of what Beyond the Wall looks like after the WW invade. He comes in contact with the Night's King during a vision and as soon he touches his arm, Bran wakes up to the wights and WW infiltrating the cave. The Children of the Forest help Bran, Meera, and Hodor escape and The Night's King eventually kills Bloodraven. Bran escapes south into the Haunted Forest while they are being chased down by wights. Meera tries to hide and just as she is about to be attacked by a wight, a hooded rider (Benjen or Mel) saves her. Bran then sees the WW marching towards the Wall. We then jump to Edd, who is the LC and is defending Castle Black. Edd sees something approach the wall in a form of an avalanche and tells his men to hold the gate for as long as they can. I think at this point either someone blows the dragon horn in order for the wall to come down or the WW break through the wall and it collapses with wights coming down over it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 17:47:55 GMT
I think we'll have both. The WW stepping through fire is them attacking Bloodraven's cave, and the army shot from one of the promos is when they attack the Wall. My guess is that this is the order is goes in. Bran sees a vision of what Beyond the Wall looks like after the WW invade. He comes in contact with the Night's King during a vision and as soon he touches his arm, Bran wakes up to the wights and WW infiltrating the cave. The Children of the Forest help Bran, Meera, and Hodor escape and The Night's King eventually kills Bloodraven. Bran escapes south into the Haunted Forest while they are being chased down by wights. Meera tries to hide and just as she is about to be attacked by a wight, a hooded rider (Benjen or Mel) saves her. Bran then sees the WW marching towards the Wall. We then jump to Edd, who is the LC and is defending Castle Black. Edd sees something approach the wall in a form of an avalanche and tells his men to hold the gate for as long as they can. I think at this point either someone blows the dragon horn in order for the wall to come down or the WW break through the wall and it collapses with wights coming down over it. Huh?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 17:50:24 GMT
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Apr 29, 2016 18:18:40 GMT
I'm all for Mel joining Bran's storyline. Makes a lot of sense in a way - her focus has always been North.
Maybe when Davos finds out about Shireen, Mel is banished and goes north.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 18:20:27 GMT
I'm all for Mel joining Bran's storyline. Makes a lot of sense in a way - her focus has always been North. Maybe when Davos finds out about Shireen, Mel is banished and goes north. Eh, I'm sure that hooded figure is Benjen. Could be Coldhands too, but that I doubt. Not Mel.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Apr 29, 2016 18:24:55 GMT
I'm all for Mel joining Bran's storyline. Makes a lot of sense in a way - her focus has always been North. Maybe when Davos finds out about Shireen, Mel is banished and goes north. Eh, I'm sure that hooded figure is Benjen. Could be Coldhands too, but that I doubt. Not Mel. Well yes, but only if they have something relevant to do going forward.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Apr 29, 2016 18:36:16 GMT
Lena Headey did an interview. She said that Cersei is slowly going mad, and that the things she does in season six are basically inexcusable. Me like.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 18:55:20 GMT
Lena Headey did an interview. She said that Cersei is slowly going mad, and that the things she does in season six are basically inexcusable. Me like. Gives innocent people to Qyburn?
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Post by TheMadQueen on Apr 29, 2016 18:57:23 GMT
Lena Headey did an interview. She said that Cersei is slowly going mad, and that the things she does in season six are basically inexcusable. Me like. Gives innocent people to Qyburn? Probably something to that affect. She said she's always believed Cersei isn't completely cruel and awful, but this year has made her "change her tune." Aka convinced her Cersei's a dick.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 19:03:03 GMT
Lena Headey did an interview. She said that Cersei is slowly going mad, and that the things she does in season six are basically inexcusable. Me like.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 19:05:50 GMT
I really disliked that Cersei scene between her and Jaime in the premiere. Cersei would never think of herself as a monster. "If I could create something as good as Myrcella, I'm not fully evil". The fuck?
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Apr 29, 2016 19:07:44 GMT
I really disliked that Cersei scene between her and Jaime in the premiere. Cersei would never think of herself as a monster. "If I could create something as good as Myrcella, I'm not fully evil". The fuck? The scene makes perfect sense post-Walk of Shame imo. That kind of experience would break anyone, proud or not. But now she's going to channel that inner fury outwardly and it's gonna be glorious.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 19:11:30 GMT
I really disliked that Cersei scene between her and Jaime in the premiere. Cersei would never think of herself as a monster. "If I could create something as good as Myrcella, I'm not fully evil". The fuck? We know Cersei loves her children so that could be why she said that and it wasn't long after her WoS either. Although Cersei feeling sentimental and remorseful for anything won't last as we see in the 6x02 promo that she says "Get out of my way" and is slowly resorting back to giving no fucks about anyone.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Apr 29, 2016 19:21:44 GMT
I really disliked that Cersei scene between her and Jaime in the premiere. Cersei would never think of herself as a monster. "If I could create something as good as Myrcella, I'm not fully evil". The fuck? The scene makes perfect sense post-Walk of Shame imo. That kind of experience would break anyone, proud or not. But now she's going to channel that inner fury outwardly and it's gonna be glorious. Yeah Cersei is allowed a moment of clarity where she really looks at herself, before she fucking swallows that and gets back on her feet. Similar to that scene in House of Cards where Claire sobs hysterically for like a minute, before quickly wiping her face and getting back to business, never to be mentioned again.
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Post by Admin on Apr 29, 2016 21:32:30 GMT
Does everyone agree btw that the Wall falling will be the final scene of the season? I was hinking of what the ending of this season can be extensively this week which is sad as fuck and I should get a life but I don' think the Wall is falling this year - cause if it falls what is left? Everyone hauls ass and fights them and that is material for couple eps tops. The only ending here for the season when Starks finally rise is Brienne witnessing the hanging of Lothar Frey and the reveal of the Risen Lady. Then in s7 it is RW 2.0,Arya mercy killing her mother and pawns falling onto place. And s7 finale is the Wall falling once the Freys, Martells,Baratheons and Greyjoys are almost no more and Jon, Dany and Tyrion protecting the realm. Lena Headey did an interview. She said that Cersei is slowly going mad, and that the things she does in season six are basically inexcusable. Me like. Gives innocent people to Qyburn? Please let it happen.
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Post by day dreamer on Apr 29, 2016 21:36:27 GMT
I think the Wall might start cracking in the finale but it won't come down yet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 21:41:15 GMT
I think this is more likely: 6x10: The Wall falls. Season 7.1: The North deals with the WW invasion while Dany conquers the south. Climax of S7.1 is whatever happens in King's Landing (Cersei burning the city, etc.). Season 7.2: The WW start invading the south and whatever the endgame is. RW 2.0 and Freys will be dealt and done with this season. But my guess is really just as good as yours.
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