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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 5:01:56 GMT
Many would argue she wasn't a true Kingsguard either, but if the Lord names her that then she is what she is and I believe she will be respected as much as any male knight under Sansa's service. Besides, by the end of things, it's going to be the women who make all the decisions so they can knight Brienne officially with her own shield and everything! #Queensrule Woops, sorry Envie, I just edited your post thinking it was mine to fix a spelling error. I've had a few Jameson's. LOL it's all good, glad you've had a few and are feeling good. This was a night worth celebrating!
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 25, 2016 5:10:09 GMT
Knighted? Idt Sansa has that power any more than Catelyn did with those same words. She's got the power as a noble Lady as much as any Lord does when he takes on a knight under him. It's not like a King making someone a Lord or legitimizing, etc. It's a vow given to a Lord or Lady. The word "knight" may not have been used, but that was essentially the oath of knighthood. Oath of fealty if you want to refuse Brienne the knighthood she deserves. It wasn't a King who made Ser Davos or Ser Bronn knights either. I'm not trying to refuse Brienne anything, just saying those were the exact same words Catelyn used. Brienne already swore fealty to Catelyn and Renly without being knighted. They weren't knighthood vows and oaths of fealty aren't all the same. Anyone can swear fealty. Kings are the only non-knights who can make knights, but Brienne already served as a Kingsguard without being knighted. Where are you getting that Bronn or Davos was knighted by a non-knight/king? Brienne already been a true knight without the title for years. Why should that change by repeating Catelyn's exact words?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 5:16:36 GMT
She's got the power as a noble Lady as much as any Lord does when he takes on a knight under him. It's not like a King making someone a Lord or legitimizing, etc. It's a vow given to a Lord or Lady. The word "knight" may not have been used, but that was essentially the oath of knighthood. Oath of fealty if you want to refuse Brienne the knighthood she deserves. It wasn't a King who made Ser Davos or Ser Bronn knights either. I'm not trying to refuse Brienne anything, just saying those were the exact same words Catelyn used. Brienne already swore fealty to Catelyn and Renly without being knighted. They weren't knighthood vows and oaths of fealty aren't all the same. Anyone can swear fealty. Kings are the only non-knights who can make knights, but Brienne already served as a Kingsguard without being knighted. Where are you getting that Bronn or Davos was knighted by a non-knight/king? Brienne already been a true knight without the title for years. Why should that change by repeating Catelyn's exact words? I'm not arguing with you it wasn't officially stated as a knighthood. I'm just saying that's essentially what just took place in that scene. Who exactly knighted Ser Bronn of the Blackwater? I'm pretty sure it was Tyrion, not Joffrey who did. Who knighted Ser Davos Seaworth? Lord Stannis Baratheon, not King. Lords can knight men who swear allegiance to them if they choose. Again, I'm not saying that's exactly what happened but it was an oath of fealty that names Brienne a sworn man (woman) of the Starks and by Brienne saving her life she should be a knight by right. I only said that in my quote because I was moved by the beauty of the moment, no need to crush it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 5:21:49 GMT
Stannis was a knight himself though wasn't he?
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 25, 2016 5:42:56 GMT
I'm not trying to refuse Brienne anything, just saying those were the exact same words Catelyn used. Brienne already swore fealty to Catelyn and Renly without being knighted. They weren't knighthood vows and oaths of fealty aren't all the same. Anyone can swear fealty. Kings are the only non-knights who can make knights, but Brienne already served as a Kingsguard without being knighted. Where are you getting that Bronn or Davos was knighted by a non-knight/king? Brienne already been a true knight without the title for years. Why should that change by repeating Catelyn's exact words? I'm not arguing with you it wasn't officially stated as a knighthood. I'm just saying that's essentially what just took place in that scene. Who exactly knighted Ser Bronn of the Blackwater? I'm pretty sure it was Tyrion, not Joffrey who did. Who knighted Ser Davos Seaworth? Lord Stannis Baratheon, not King. Nope, Joffrey knighted Bronn. And who says Stannis wasn't a knight himself? We don't know who knighted Davos in any case, I don't think, all we know is that Stannis did the finger chopping himself. I'm sorry to be a nitpicking killjoy, I just don't get how she's any more a knight now than with Cat or Renly. If we agree that the title doesn't matter, then she already was a knight. Catelyn already psuedo-knighted her if that's what you mean. Are you just saying it was beautiful to see this repeated again? Sorry if I misunderstood. As Luwin told Bran many times, a knighthood is a just an honorific, which most of the North doesn't even practice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 8:13:12 GMT
Varys: "You? You walk as if the pavement was your own personal property"
(something like that. Also Varys' faces in that whole segment were amazing)
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Post by TheKittenGuard on Apr 25, 2016 22:11:38 GMT
Khal Moro: seeing a beautiful woman naked for the first time is there anything better than? Bloodrider 1: Killing another Khal? Moro: Yes, Killing another Khal BR 1: Conquering a city and taking her people as slaves, and taking idols back to Vors Dorthrak. BR2: Breaking a Wild horse, forcing it to submit to your will. Khal Moro: Seeing a beautiful woman naked for the first time is among the five best things in life.
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Post by Father of Dragons on Apr 25, 2016 22:23:53 GMT
Sansa's lines were great, and I loved Pod helping her out a bit But Khal Moro's line takes it for me "Seeing a beautiful woman naked for the first time is among the best five things in life" I just loved his facial expressions and the emphasis he put on it
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Apr 26, 2016 2:24:44 GMT
Daario: “I want to see what the world looks like when she’s done conquering it”. Jorah: "So do I".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 2:51:51 GMT
Daario: “I want to see what the world looks like when she’s done conquering it”. Jorah: "So do I". And then Jorah looks at his arm... I'm still not very happy about D&D gave him Greyscale. They better give him an epic death at least.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 2:53:44 GMT
Daario: “I want to see what the world looks like when she’s done conquering it”. Jorah: "So do I". And then Jorah looks at his arm... I'm still not very happy about D&D gave him Greyscale. They better give him an epic death at least. Jorah Connington, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 2:57:36 GMT
And then Jorah looks at his arm... I'm still not very happy about D&D gave him Greyscale. They better give him an epic death at least. Jorah Connington, I guess. Jon Con is a throwaway character though. Jorah is the most important person to one of the stories main characters. Maybe Greyscale will become a storyline in future seasons, but considering how little time we have left, and how much we still need to get to, I doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 2:59:56 GMT
Jorah Connington, I guess. Jon Con is a throwaway character though. Jorah is the most important person to one of the stories main characters. Maybe Greyscale will become a storyline in future seasons, but considering how little time we have left, and how much we still need to get to, I doubt it. Yeah true. My theory doesn't make any sense now since the ships in Meereen were burned and Dorne is a complete fuck up so there's no reason for Jorah to travel to Volantis and convince the Golden Company to fight for Dany and then open the door for Dany's landing in Dorne.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 3:30:31 GMT
Jon Con is a throwaway character though. Jorah is the most important person to one of the stories main characters. Maybe Greyscale will become a storyline in future seasons, but considering how little time we have left, and how much we still need to get to, I doubt it. Yeah true. My theory doesn't make any sense now since the ships in Meereen were burned and Dorne is a complete fuck up so there's no reason for Jorah to travel to Volantis and convince the Golden Company to fight for Dany and then open the door for Dany's landing in Dorne. The ships burning really seems to foreshadow the need for help from Westeros which is probably why Yara will be going there now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 4:13:06 GMT
Daario: “I want to see what the world looks like when she’s done conquering it”. Jorah: "So do I". And then Jorah looks at his arm... I'm still not very happy about D&D gave him Greyscale. They better give him an epic death at least. i can see his death being a tear-jerker, sort of a quiet moment with Dany near him. I'll probably cry either way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 21:53:30 GMT
And then Jorah looks at his arm... I'm still not very happy about D&D gave him Greyscale. They better give him an epic death at least. i can see his death being a tear-jerker, sort of a quiet moment with Dany near him. I'll probably cry either way. Thing is, Jorah knows what happens to people who get consumed by Greyscale he saw the Stone men in Valyria - they go insane by the end of it ... so he isn't going to want to go out that way and will likely do something to sacrifice himself at some point, which is even more of a tear-jerker of course.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Apr 26, 2016 22:18:47 GMT
i can see his death being a tear-jerker, sort of a quiet moment with Dany near him. I'll probably cry either way. Thing is, Jorah knows what happens to people who get consumed by Greyscale he saw the Stone men in Valyria - they go insane by the end of it ... so he isn't going to want to go out that way and will likely do something to sacrifice himself at some point, which is even more of a tear-jerker of course. I dunno, I think he is being rather reckless about his greyscale, being in such close proximity to people and touching them. I think of him being more in an "Oh shit I am not ready to die!" Frame of mind. I kind of felt this even more after his thing about wanting to see the world when Dany is done with it. He's not in a self-sacrificing frame of mind...yet. I think he might be later though, once the Greyscale has advanced too far. Kind of hope his sacrifice is to leave Dany and the others to save them being infected, rather than outright dying.
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on Apr 26, 2016 22:22:37 GMT
"I used to rob men like you when I was a boy." "Good thing you're not a boy anymore. - It's because you don't have a cock." Tyrion and Varys. It's not word for word, but that's the gist of it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 7:21:57 GMT
For delivery alone, Edd saying, "Thorne did this." Crompton really surprised me with his non-comedic chops. The guy CAN ACT.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 11:34:58 GMT
For delivery alone, Edd saying, "Thorne did this." Crompton really surprised me with his non-comedic chops. The guy CAN ACT. "Jon was my friend, and those fuckers butchered him."
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