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Post by morgantayler on Nov 5, 2015 16:28:57 GMT
Yeah, I never thought she would actually become devoted to the Faith like the leak said. I would have disappointed if she had, tbh. I don't think that fits with what we know about her character.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 16:30:21 GMT
Yeah, I never thought she would actually become devoted to the Faith like the leak said. I would have disappointed if she, tbh. I don't think that fits with her character. Well, she could have been brainwashed. That could happen to anyone.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Nov 5, 2015 16:31:04 GMT
Hope you're right. I guess in the end it's another development to corner Cersei even further, who is the real protagonist in KL. I think the Cersei s5 thing was about her thinking the Sparrows were her proxy and acting accordingly. Whereas this with the Tyrells will be more of a genuine partnership and also a way for Marge to ensure that she, and probably Loras, go free and find a way to benefit from the new state of affairs in KL. I can see Marg thinking of it as a partnership but not sure about the HS. He's quite the spiritual absolutist: if he knows Marg is faking it, I don't think he'd be OK with it even if it means more political power for him. What I can see happening is that Tommen is genuinely converted, and so maybe that's satisfying enough for the High Sparrow, as long as Marg plays along. And I guess it's also possible he sees some value in Margaery despite her faking her piety (the people love her as they love him).
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Post by morgantayler on Nov 5, 2015 16:32:34 GMT
Yeah, I never thought she would actually become devoted to the Faith like the leak said. I would have disappointed if she, tbh. I don't think that fits with her character. Well, she could have been brainwashed. That could happen to anyone. That's true haha but the way it was described to us didn't really makes sense for me.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Nov 5, 2015 16:32:56 GMT
Yeah, I never thought she would actually become devoted to the Faith like the leak said. I would have disappointed if she, tbh. I don't think that fits with her character. Well, she could have been brainwashed. That could happen to anyone. Yeah, everyone can be brainwashed after enough time. And I thought 10 episodes in a cell might do just that, but guess not But it wouldn't really have gone "against" her character, because at some point character breaks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 16:36:36 GMT
I think the Cersei s5 thing was about her thinking the Sparrows were her proxy and acting accordingly. Whereas this with the Tyrells will be more of a genuine partnership and also a way for Marge to ensure that she, and probably Loras, go free and find a way to benefit from the new state of affairs in KL. I can see Marg thinking of it as a partnership but not sure about the HS. He's quite the spiritual absolutist: if he knows Marg is faking it, I don't think he'd be OK with it even if it means more political power for him. What I can see happening is that Tommen is genuinely converted, and so maybe that's satisfying enough for the High Sparrow, as long as Marg plays along. And I guess it's also possible he sees some value in Margaery despite her faking her piety (the people love her as they love him).I think that's his main gain from it. The people hated Cersei already and the Lannisters in KL generally aren't well-liked. Marge is, which might cause more damage to his power base than he thinks at first.
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Post by day dreamer on Nov 5, 2015 16:37:32 GMT
I think it's very true to Margaery's character. She wants to be THE queen so she does what she wants in order to secure it. Good for her scheming ways.
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Post by morgantayler on Nov 5, 2015 16:47:50 GMT
I think it's very true to Margaery's character. She wants to be THE queen so she does what she wants in order to secure it. Good for her scheming ways. Oh her faking it definitely fits but I'm pretty sure there was some one who was sure she became a true devotee and I never really believed it.
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Post by morgantayler on Nov 5, 2015 17:09:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 17:10:50 GMT
I'm sure someone in the WOTW comments could narrow that down.
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Post by morgantayler on Nov 5, 2015 17:21:40 GMT
I found this, I don't know what her name is though. I'm sure someone in the WOTW comments could narrow that down. Probably haha, I just posted it in there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 17:22:51 GMT
I'm sure someone in the WOTW comments could narrow that down. Probably haha, I just posted it in there. They tend to be very resourceful when it comes to that sort of thing.
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Post by morgantayler on Nov 5, 2015 18:00:31 GMT
Nobody is responding I just decided to go ahead and ask the guy who posted it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 19:14:48 GMT
Nobody is responding I just decided to go ahead and ask the guy who posted it. Or maybe he has twitter? Could be friends with her there? I dunno really. I'm not as social media savvy as you are.
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Post by morgantayler on Nov 5, 2015 19:18:10 GMT
Nobody is responding I just decided to go ahead and ask the guy who posted it. Or maybe he has twitter? Could be friends with her there? I dunno really. I'm not as social media savvy as you are. I already looked through it haha, I tried to see if I could find her in the people he follows but no luck.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 21:31:48 GMT
I just posted this in the LSH thread, but I don't think y'all go there so I just repost it here: What I'm about to post is just speculation, but still. So, Irish Thrones has alluded to some major deaths in the Riverlands. They also believe in LSH. L7R have bitched about the Riverlands storyline and said that many book readers won't like the ending. What if this isn't about LSH not being in, but instead about LSH actually killing someone, e.g. Jaime? That would be hugely controversial. WIC also wrote an article on that: winteriscoming.net/2015/11/05/season-6-spoilery-slips-major-deaths-and-script-leaks/
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 21:35:41 GMT
LSH doesn't kill Jaime.
That's as absurd as Brienne killing Sta-- oh wait.
Still Jaime has to kill Cersei first.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 21:38:39 GMT
LSH doesn't kill Jaime. That's as absurd as Brienne killing Sta-- oh wait. Still Jaime has to kill Cersei first.Well, we have been saying that, but we really don't know if this will happen. Besides, who are the major deaths in the Riverlands? It could be Walder Frey of course, but that's just one character.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 21:40:19 GMT
LSH doesn't kill Jaime. That's as absurd as Brienne killing Sta-- oh wait. Still Jaime has to kill Cersei first.Well, we have been saying that, but we really don't know if this will happen. Besides, who are the major deaths in the Riverlands? It could be Walder Frey of course, but that's just one character. Walder, Brienne, Podrick, maybe Blackfish. Bronn?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 21:45:50 GMT
By the way, the show did omit the Valonqar part of the prophecy... In the show there is no reason to think that Jaime will indeed kill Cersei. Just saying.
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