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Post by archiechvyalthan on Oct 18, 2015 18:16:53 GMT
Yeah, I'm beginning to think there's no time for that. There's barely time to set it up, which I think is what episode 10 will do. The younger Frey is in 3 episodes, 6x07 and 6x10 is only 2. So I assume there's got to be another episode that takes place at Riverrun. That's true. We know that "Merrett" Frey dies this season and it will probably happen in 6x10. But that can be an isolated death (like his ASOS death was), not necessarily a Frey massacre at a wedding.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 18:21:54 GMT
The younger Frey is in 3 episodes, 6x07 and 6x10 is only 2. So I assume there's got to be another episode that takes place at Riverrun. That's true. We know that "Merrett" Frey dies this season and it will probably happen in 6x10. But that can be an isolated death (like his ASOS death was), not necessarily a Frey massacre at a wedding. True, his death could have nothing to do with a RW2.0 but I think we are hoping the show going through the effort to cast a specific Frey indicates a revenge killing of some sort going on in s6. It could be he dies in the siege of Riverrun too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 18:25:40 GMT
I think the casting call for that Frey son said that it was a 3 episodes thing only and that he would die. As crazy as it may sound, we shouldn't eliminate the possibility of the ASoS epilogue being adapted in some form...
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Post by breakfest on Oct 18, 2015 18:26:41 GMT
Couple of things: this doesn't prove or disprove the wedding idea at all. If the siege is in episode 7 then that means the Freys control Riverrun from then on and the wedding could take place there. Jaime not being around means nothing since I don't think he has to be at the wedding to be caught by the BWB. The theory is still possible and something has to go down in Riverrun in episode 10...
Also about the Faceless Men that people keep getting confused by: the most important thing to take out of that season 5 finale was that none of the advanced FM are really people any more. There is no Jaqen, there is no Waif, they are all just blank slates to plant an appearance and personality onto in order to serve the Many-Faced God. It doesn't matter who 'died' after taking the potion, though they probably didn't. It was just a way to show Arya that fact that I just explained.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 18:32:22 GMT
Couple of things: this doesn't prove or disprove the wedding idea at all. If the siege is in episode 7 then that means the Freys control Riverrun from then on and the wedding could take place there. Jaime not being around means nothing since I don't think he has to be at the wedding to be caught by the BWB. The theory is still possible and something has to go down in Riverrun in episode 10... Also about the Faceless Men that people keep getting confused by: the most important thing to take out of that season 5 finale was that none of the advanced FM are really people any more. There is no Jaqen, there is no Waif, they are all just blank slates to plant an appearance and personality onto in order to serve the Many-Faced God. It doesn't matter who 'died' after taking the potion, though they probably didn't. It was just a way to show Arya that fact that I just explained. If we as book readers are confused, I'm sure the show-only audience has absolutely no clue wtf that was about nor do they understand what being "No One" really means. It's very vague in what little we have from the book so I can't imagine we know the whole story there, do you? Taking a drink of the death water and not dying would imply they have special powers far beyond their face-changer ones and are somehow immortal so long as they keep changing faces. That's an interesting theory but we'll need more info from TWOW or the show to be sure what happened there. Don't be too sure.
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Post by boojam on Oct 18, 2015 18:49:05 GMT
Also about the Faceless Men that people keep getting confused by: the most important thing to take out of that season 5 finale was that none of the advanced FM are really people any more. There is no Jaqen, there is no Waif, they are all just blank slates to plant an appearance and personality onto in order to serve the Many-Faced God. It doesn't matter who 'died' after taking the potion, though they probably didn't. It was just a way to show Arya that fact that I just explained. In the books , there seems no FM 'head man' even if the Kindly Man seems to 'sort of'' run things at the HoBaW. However there is a FM 'council' of sorts. Seems there has to be some organized way to make decisions about what the FM do and what individual FM do. I wonder if they will ever have time to elaborate on the FM ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 18:56:11 GMT
Couple of things: this doesn't prove or disprove the wedding idea at all. If the siege is in episode 7 then that means the Freys control Riverrun from then on and the wedding could take place there. Jaime not being around means nothing since I don't think he has to be at the wedding to be caught by the BWB. The theory is still possible and something has to go down in Riverrun in episode 10... Yeah The Riverlands storyline is fairly behind compared to the rest of the locations so there has to be some climax in 6x10, whether it's Walder's wedding or some Frey revenge killing.
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Post by breakfest on Oct 18, 2015 19:25:35 GMT
Couple of things: this doesn't prove or disprove the wedding idea at all. If the siege is in episode 7 then that means the Freys control Riverrun from then on and the wedding could take place there. Jaime not being around means nothing since I don't think he has to be at the wedding to be caught by the BWB. The theory is still possible and something has to go down in Riverrun in episode 10... Also about the Faceless Men that people keep getting confused by: the most important thing to take out of that season 5 finale was that none of the advanced FM are really people any more. There is no Jaqen, there is no Waif, they are all just blank slates to plant an appearance and personality onto in order to serve the Many-Faced God. It doesn't matter who 'died' after taking the potion, though they probably didn't. It was just a way to show Arya that fact that I just explained. If we as book readers are confused, I'm sure the show-only audience has absolutely no clue wtf that was about nor do they understand what being "No One" really means. It's very vague in what little we have from the book so I can't imagine we know the whole story there, do you? Taking a drink of the death water and not dying would imply they have special powers far beyond their face-changer ones and are somehow immortal so long as they keep changing faces. That's an interesting theory but we'll need more info from TWOW or the show to be sure what happened there. Don't be too sure. I'm not too sure about a lot of things but I am sure about what I posted. Yes lots of things have been purposefully left mysterious about the FM, same as a lot of other things in the asoiaf canon, but 'Jaqen', in drinking the 'poison' (we don't know that it was the death water) was clearly demonstrating to Arya that he is not really Jaqen at all - any of them can appear to be Jaqen at any one point and that is the mastery of their purpose just as much as it is the mystery. All of them can assume countless identities, which is why they are so interesting to me since they have lost any identity of their own. This is why it's almost funny that we obsess over where Jaqen will be or what Jaqen will do next season - there is no Jaqen, only the appearance of a Jaqen. Yes it's quite complicated but that's why it's challenging and, in my opinion, intriguing. The breadcrumbs are there to follow. I reckon we'll have even more answers and even more question next season.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Oct 18, 2015 19:30:31 GMT
What do we make of Natalie Dormer's comments re: season 6 (from the latest con):
“What a massive compliment that you think she’s a threat!” said Dormer. “Oh God, I love working with Lena so much. Because Margaery is trying to be Cersei. She wants to be the mother of the king. I mean, she wants to have a child with him who winds up on the Iron Throne. And Cersei knows that. So it’s like the Cold War -- mutually assured destruction! But it got really interesting last season and they’ve got new problems. So who knows… The enemy of my enemy is my friend, maybe?”
That's a bit confusing. Is she allying with the High Sparrow against Cersei or does she ally with Cersei against HS?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 19:38:18 GMT
What do we make of Natalie Dormer's comments re: season 6 (from the latest con): “What a massive compliment that you think she’s a threat!” said Dormer. “Oh God, I love working with Lena so much. Because Margaery is trying to be Cersei. She wants to be the mother of the king. I mean, she wants to have a child with him who winds up on the Iron Throne. And Cersei knows that. So it’s like the Cold War -- mutually assured destruction! But it got really interesting last season and they’ve got new problems. So who knows… The enemy of my enemy is my friend, maybe?” That's a bit confusing. Is she allying with the High Sparrow against Cersei or does she ally with Cersei against HS? That is interesting. She could just be making random speculation but we assume she knows the full plot for Season 6 and isn't just making something up based on the fan's question about Cersei and whether or not Margaery is a threat to her. If it's more than a guess and an actual hint based on the story, then once Marg has been freed, she's probably going to work with one side or the other for sure. If I had to guess based on what we know so far (Sept steps scene) I'd say the enemy of her enemy is the High Sparrow.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 19:41:53 GMT
That's a bit confusing. Is she allying with the High Sparrow against Cersei or does she ally with Cersei against HS?
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Oct 18, 2015 20:28:55 GMT
What do we make of Natalie Dormer's comments re: season 6 (from the latest con): “What a massive compliment that you think she’s a threat!” said Dormer. “Oh God, I love working with Lena so much. Because Margaery is trying to be Cersei. She wants to be the mother of the king. I mean, she wants to have a child with him who winds up on the Iron Throne. And Cersei knows that. So it’s like the Cold War -- mutually assured destruction! But it got really interesting last season and they’ve got new problems. So who knows… The enemy of my enemy is my friend, maybe?” That's a bit confusing. Is she allying with the High Sparrow against Cersei or does she ally with Cersei against HS? That is interesting. She could just be making random speculation but we assume she knows the full plot for Season 6 and isn't just making something up based on the fan's question about Cersei and whether or not Margaery is a threat to her. If it's more than a guess and an actual hint based on the story, then once Marg has been freed, she's probably going to work with one side or the other for sure. If I had to guess based on what we know so far (Sept steps scene) I'd say the enemy of her enemy is the High Sparrow. I think you're right. It's just that the way she phrased it is weird. Makes it sound like her "new problem" is the same as Cersei's.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Oct 18, 2015 20:33:04 GMT
We really need Cami to tell us what they shot in Sorbas yesterday and if Emilia has been spotted in Mesa Roldán today.
If she has, then we can set sail to Westeros....
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Post by cami on Oct 18, 2015 21:30:25 GMT
We really need Cami to tell us what they shot in Sorbas yesterday and if Emilia has been spotted in Mesa Roldán today. If she has, then we can set sail to Westeros.... Wish I knew! Not any relevant news today... hope it is because is Sunday... I really want to know what and who filmed yesterday in the quarry and today in Mesa Roldan
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 21:30:54 GMT
How about if the young frey is jaime's squire. I can see 3 episodes of jaime in riverlands, ep 7, 8 and 10.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 21:34:10 GMT
How about if the young frey is jaime's squire. I can see 3 episodes of jaime in riverlands, ep 7, 8 and 10. Doesn't Jaime already have Bronn going with him though?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 21:38:14 GMT
When people say "the young Frey" they just mean the sort of Emmon/Merrett composite character and mean young only insofar as he's younger than Walder, don't they? Or are we assuming that the little boy that was the other day is going to be a Frey too?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 21:41:27 GMT
When people say "the young Frey" they just mean the sort of Emmon/Merrett composite character and mean young only insofar as he's younger than Walder, don't they? Or are we assuming that the little boy that was the other day is going to be a Frey too? I have no idea. I'm so lost with the Riverlands storyline right now. I think the young Frey is a combination of Emmon/Merrett probably just to have another face like Black Walder and Lothar in Season 3. The little boy from the other day I don't think will be a Frey.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 21:49:16 GMT
How about if the young frey is jaime's squire. I can see 3 episodes of jaime in riverlands, ep 7, 8 and 10. Doesn't Jaime already have Bronn going with him though? Bronn is the Knight of the Blackwater I dunno its kind've weird how they are treating him on the show. Bronn would never take that squire shit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 21:51:38 GMT
Doesn't Jaime already have Bronn going with him though? Bronn is the Knight of the Blackwater I dunno its kind've weird how they are treating him on the show. Bronn would never take that squire shit. They're really just giving something for Bronn to do because his character disappears after ASoS. We only hear about him and Lollys through Cersei.
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