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Post by Zadeth on Jul 11, 2017 9:30:50 GMT
I really enjoyed the mid-season finale. I like that they're, seemingly, turning the Clarke's into the villains? Very interesting premise. Glad to see Strand get closure with the Abigail, the scene between him and the Russian was very well done.
Ofelia's return was long overdue and her being a traitor was a great ending to the first episode. I'm hoping she eventually rejoins Madison and co. I'm glad they didn't have an out all war with the Indians dying, they have a lot of potential and now Madison is seemingly in charge a lot can develop now.
I wish we at least saw a bit of Daniel in the finale. I assume eventually all three groups (the Ranch, the Indians and the Dam) will converge as there was an emphasis on water shortages and the Dam is in the business of selling water. If Ofelia rises to leader if/when Taka dies, it will be interesting to see the three groups spearheaded by all members of the original group have it out for their own community.
I hope they reunite everyone by the season finale. It's interesting to see different groups, but when you leave people our for episodes at a time it's really annoying.
The main show should take note on how to build suspense and leave cliffhangers. This mid-season finale was perfect in that regard, I even think episode 7 could have been the mid-season breaking point but I'm glad they also showed episode 7 before the break.
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Post by kingeomer on Jul 11, 2017 10:51:12 GMT
Zadeth, I was two episodes behind but I am all caught up now. I need to think some more on the mid-season finale. Last night after watching it, I was like ehhhh...this morning, I am thinking more favorable of it. I think it would be an interesting take if they did make the Clarke's the villains. I don't think Madison's been very smart, just lucky. I was not getting her vibe with Troy but now I see she was manipulating him and sticking it out with the Otto's waiting for her chance to take over the ranch. The only thing I really didn't understand is how her handing Walker the head of Jeremiah Otto had him peacing out and seemingly leaving the Clarke's in control of the ranch. All he wanted was the land back and he's okay with Otto's head? I did like the Ofelia flashback and the brief vision of Daniel encouraging her to go on and it explained her loyalty to Walker. I wish we saw more of Daniel as well. My favorite scene was Strand talking to the Cosmonaut.
I think you are right that the three groups: the dam, ranch and the Indians will all have to converge. You have three strong personalities in charge of each, I don't think it will be an easy alliance.
Everyone needs to be reunited soon. They can certainly do something different then the main show when on there, when everyone is reunited they are happy to see each other....this show, when they are reunited, everyone should be wary of each other.
I would love to have Nick's healing powers. He recovered rather quickly from anthrax exposure.
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Post by Zadeth on Jul 11, 2017 11:39:01 GMT
Zadeth , I was two episodes behind but I am all caught up now. I need to think some more on the mid-season finale. Last night after watching it, I was like ehhhh...this morning, I am thinking more favorable of it. I think it would be an interesting take if they did make the Clarke's the villains. I don't think Madison's been very smart, just lucky. I was not getting her vibe with Troy but now I see she was manipulating him and sticking it out with the Otto's waiting for her chance to take over the ranch. The only thing I really didn't understand is how her handing Walker the head of Jeremiah Otto had him peacing out and seemingly leaving the Clarke's in control of the ranch. All he wanted was the land back and he's okay with Otto's head? I did like the Ofelia flashback and the brief vision of Daniel encouraging her to go on and it explained her loyalty to Walker. I wish we saw more of Daniel as well. My favorite scene was Strand talking to the Cosmonaut.
I think you are right that the three groups: the dam, ranch and the Indians will all have to converge. You have three strong personalities in charge of each, I don't think it will be an easy alliance.
Everyone needs to be reunited soon. They can certainly do something different then the main show when on there, when everyone is reunited they are happy to see each other....this show, when they are reunited, everyone should be wary of each other.
I would love to have Nick's healing powers. He recovered rather quickly from anthrax exposure. Yeah I don't really get why Walker backed off after getting Otto's head... hopefully it will develop next half and isn't a massive error. I would like to see the Indians thinned down to a few core ones we can get to know and for them to join the Ranch. Maybe after all those beacons being lit and them leaving their outpost it's been overrun now? I saw an article entitled "Fear The Walking Dead highlights why white people are the worst", lol.
Yeah it seems like they have been setting up for them all to meet at the Dam, since water shortages keep getting mentioned. The only thing I'm wondering is what will happen to Strand? Perhaps he'll meet up with Madison if/when she goes to the Dam, because Daniel sure as hell won't help him.
I would say maybe Ofelia gave Nick a lower dosage but she poisoned "the coffee", not the individual soldier's drinks,. so they'll probably chalk it down to him being a junkie and being used to stuff poisoning him lol. I'm hoping she rejoins the Clarkes. I can't see the Indians saving her rather than their own if anything goes down, so maybe if/when their outpost is destroyed she'll find that out.
Nick killing Otto was very predictable I feel, when they spend 2 minutes showing him creeping up and stuff - still well done, but I feel they could have handled it a bit better. Much better than the Lucille cliffhanger, for sure.
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Post by kingeomer on Jul 12, 2017 10:47:53 GMT
I will comment under spoilers as well. I am hoping that Walker being satisfied with Otto's head will be developed in the second half. He was impressed with Madison when she took Ofelia back to them and he first met her...but it seems glaring since they were all about the land, I just would think Otto's death, while satisfactory, wouldn't be enough. I agree that I would like to see the Indians thinned down to a core few that we get to know and they become part of the group.
I wonder about Strand too. I can't see him going back to the dam. And where would Daniel be off to looking for Ofelia?
I can't see them saving Ofelia when the time comes. Her only hope is her father finding her. I think they had been building up Nick and Otto for something...considering that Otto seemed to want to take Nick under his wing and Nick was basically humoring him. When I look back on it-Otto giving Nick the gun, Nick learning to shoot, joining their "army" and like you said, him pulling the trigger on Otto was veyr predictable. It was definitely better then the Lucille cliffhanger. I think there was a lot about Otto that obviously reminded Madison of her father and not in a good way.
Speaking of Otto, I absolutely love Dayton Callies as an actor, he was also terrific in Sons of Anarchy when he played Chief Unser- a really good guy. He was very good in this role.
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 12, 2017 13:50:57 GMT
Zadeth I watched some of the episodes this season. I mostly liked what I saw, but I thought the ones that didn't have the Clarks kind of dragged.
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Post by Zadeth on Jul 12, 2017 16:19:11 GMT
Zadeth I watched some of the episodes this season. I mostly liked what I saw, but I thought the ones that didn't have the Clarks kind of dragged. The last two episodes before the finale really dragged too, and they had the Clarkes. The mid-season finale really made up for it though. Every time I remember Gimple is coming to the show next season I weep a little.
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 13, 2017 0:12:15 GMT
Zadeth I watched some of the episodes this season. I mostly liked what I saw, but I thought the ones that didn't have the Clarks kind of dragged. The last two episodes before the finale really dragged too, and they had the Clarkes. The mid-season finale really made up for it though. Every time I remember Gimple is coming to the show next season I weep a little. Oh God I forgot about that. Nick's face when Madison told her kids that she killed her dad was priceless though. Glad to see Stannis' son has mastered the dafuq face.
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Post by kingeomer on Jul 13, 2017 12:34:41 GMT
The last two episodes before the finale really dragged too, and they had the Clarkes. The mid-season finale really made up for it though. Every time I remember Gimple is coming to the show next season I weep a little. Oh God I forgot about that. Nick's face when Madison told her kids that she killed her dad was priceless though. Glad to see Stannis' son has mastered the dafuq face. Frank Dillane was gold for reaction shots this year.
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 13, 2017 15:06:15 GMT
Oh God I forgot about that. Nick's face when Madison told her kids that she killed her dad was priceless though. Glad to see Stannis' son has mastered the dafuq face. Frank Dillane was gold for reaction shots this year. Not enough people gif that guy on tumblr unless Alicia is in the frame with him.
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Post by Zadeth on Sept 10, 2017 13:35:38 GMT
It's back on tonight, not seen any promo for it but seen a post on Reddit.
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Post by kingeomer on Sept 11, 2017 12:05:08 GMT
Did anyone watch last night? I stayed up for the two hours and did watch. I was wrong. Strand's taking them back to the dam. That should go well *not*. I am surprised that they did not kill Troy, especially considering that Daniel Sharman will be playing the lead the second season of Medic: Masters of Florence and is filming in Italy right now. Nick wears a lot of plot armor but I did like the end of shot of him helping Alicia and Indians dig for water and then the militia joins in. I don't get Alicia's beef with Madison though, I know she feels like Nick is the favorite but Madison is all about the kids, so I don't understand the line that seemed to imply that she felt Madison didn't love either of them? The actress who plays Ofelia is pregnant in real life.
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Post by Zadeth on Sept 11, 2017 12:59:34 GMT
I won't be able to watch until Friday
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Post by Zadeth on Sept 18, 2017 9:04:46 GMT
I really wish Daniel would just go back with Madison and co to the Ranch. He's at his best when he's with Ofelia. I'm hoping the Dam community collapses in the next episode and Daniel goes back with the group. Now that Walker has told Daniel about Ofelia betraying the ranch and murdering people, I think it is almost certain he's going to go and sort her out. But I can't help but think something is going to happen to Ofelia, now Lola wants her at the trade; even if it's minor and stops her from going to the trade, it may be what makes Daniel go to the ranch and he doesn't leave once he's with Ofelia again. I love how the Dam people think a few cable ties will save that fence I'm happy to see Walker and Madison make up at the end - I think Madison is playing it very well in that she's being friendly with everyone and when conflict inevitably breaks out she can go with the winner. It's all well and good that they have water now, but the peace on the Ranch will only last until the next shortage. I hope they thin down the numbers of the Ranch so that both sides are forced to be an actual community and work together.
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Post by kingeomer on Sept 18, 2017 12:10:57 GMT
Last night's episode wasn't my favorite but thoughts under spoilers: Daniel does need to reunite with Ofelia. I hope nothing bad happens to her. I know Mercedes Mason is pregnant, so I am not sure how much of Ofelia we see in these back half episodes. I will say this episode contained three really good scenes: Madison talking to Lola about leadership Strand talking to Madison: what would Madison with a perm want? Madison and Walker at the end I really need Walker not to say consequences again. Madison is making all the right moves as the leader of the ranch. I have a feeling reuniting Ofelia with her father won't go smoothly.
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Post by Zadeth on Sept 18, 2017 13:54:57 GMT
Last night's episode wasn't my favorite but thoughts under spoilers: Daniel does need to reunite with Ofelia. I hope nothing bad happens to her. I know Mercedes Mason is pregnant, so I am not sure how much of Ofelia we see in these back half episodes. I will say this episode contained three really good scenes: Madison talking to Lola about leadership Strand talking to Madison: what would Madison with a perm want? Madison and Walker at the end I really need Walker not to say consequences again. Madison is making all the right moves as the leader of the ranch. I have a feeling reuniting Ofelia with her father won't go smoothly. The thing I like about Fear is that the filler episodes are still really good at building tension and setting up for the next episode, in comparison to the main show. I agree, the scenes you mentioned were really good - I especially liked the perm Madison scene I think Daniel will try to get Ofelia to come with him to the Dam and there will be a whole "I'm not your little girl any more/you left me and I had to fend for myself" drama. I hope they can resolve it, I really like both Daniel and Ofelia and think they work well together. I hope they don't kill Ofelia off for the sake of convenience as the actress is pregnant - do you know how far along she is? The only thing I'm concerned about is that we didn't see the Ranch at all whilst Madison, Strand and Walker were travelling, (along with the Walkie Talkie being traded to the Bazaar) - I feel something could have gone down and we'll see it in the opening next week.
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Post by kingeomer on Sept 19, 2017 12:04:01 GMT
I agree about Fear...that at least the filler episodes do move the plot along and aren't just filler. Did you know that Mercedes Mason is married to David Denham (Pam's ill-fated fiance, Roy, from The Office US version)? I didn't know that. I'm not sure how far along she is but looking at their photos at some Emmy party, she looks to be about midway. I agree that we are going to get 'I'm not your little girl, Dad, anymore" from Ofelia. Daniel's going to have to deal with the fact that his daughter knows how to survive in a way that he was trying to protect her from. I would say pregnancy off screen doesn't mean death on screen Sonequa Martin Green was pregnant a couple seasons back, Tara was pregnant in real life 2 seasons ago and I think the actress that plays Rosita is pregnant now. I guess depending on when FTWD films for the next season, Ofelia will be off screen for a bit while the actress has her baby and recovers.
I think, if I remember the previews for next week's episode, it seems to look like Troy returns. I figure he's a dead man walking because the actor will be in Italy filming the second season of Medici: Masters of Florence probably until the new year. And he's the leading role. I think we'll see if Nick embraces his inner Troy or not.
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Post by Zadeth on Sept 25, 2017 20:08:53 GMT
I got everything I wanted from this episode. Something that is going to bring the Nation and the Ranchers together (and thin out the extras).
Troy and Jake drama. I'm a bit pissed he died, I wanted to see him adapt to the world with only one arm. I see a parallel with the Dixon brothers in these two, only the bad brother survived this time. I really fucking hate that they killed Merle in the way they did in the original series. I hope Troy now respects the leadership of whoever ends up in charge and will be the one to do the dirty work, as Merle was.
Glad to see Ofelia has some sense again. I really hope Madison, Walker and co don't see the Ranch all fucked up and immediately leave, thus splitting the group again. That has been done to death and I really think these characters work the best together, especially the Clarkes.
I liked Coop as a background character. I'm really sad he died. The scene where he knew it was over and tried to kill himself was very powerful. Glad to see Alicia getting some air time (and stepping up to putting Coop out of his misery).
Alicia coming out of that horde as the leader is a twist I did not expect to see coming. I'm very interested to see how she'll handle the role, and I can't see Madison being too happy to respond to her daughter (nor Walker to a young kid).
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Post by Zadeth on Sept 25, 2017 20:11:58 GMT
I saw this comment on Reddit and I think it really highlights why I love the show so much. "Something I've noticed with Fear the Walking Dead as opposed to The Walking Dead is that main characters deaths are so nonchalant. Ex: Chris, Travis, and now Jake."
It's more like ASOIAF where no one is safe and can be gone in the blink of an eye. In the main show there are obvious plot armour characters like Daryl, but in Fear anything can happen. It's also a lot more realistic.
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Post by Zadeth on Sept 25, 2017 20:26:04 GMT
Possible spoiler for future episode. Apparently on Talking Dead last night Chris was talking to the actor who played Jake and Chris asked about the contact lenses they use for zombie makeup. The actress who plays Ofelia said that they really hurt wearing them because the guy who puts them in has really thick fingers and when there are sandstorms on set it gets in the contacts.
I have suspected that Ofelia was going to die, but I hope not. If she is going to die, I hope her and Daniel's reunion isn't awful like Andrea/Rick in season 3 of the main show
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Post by kingeomer on Sept 26, 2017 13:26:27 GMT
ZadethUnder spoilers: As soon as Daniel and Lola tasked Madison, Strand and I guess Walker with bringing Ofelia back to them in exchange for water, I had a feeling her days were numbered. I did catch that comment about the contacts from Mercedes Mason on Talking Dead. It's not going to be that easy and I think, like you mentioned, this show seems to have an easier time of it getting rid of main characters then the TWD. Not gonna lie, I was pissed at Nick for pushing Jake off of Troy because I was like, he wouldn't have been bit if you let him be, Nick. I really expect Troy to die (especially since Daniel Sharman is the lead of season 2 of Medici Masters of Florence and if season 2 films as long as season 1, he will be filming that for about 6 months in Italy). I'd be okay if Nick died and Troy too, I can't see them letting Troy live for basically sicking the herd on the ranch. I was sad to see Coop die too. Not surprised that Alicia is taking on a leadership role, she seemed to be heading that way, especially with the way she was handling Jake.
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