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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 10:23:55 GMT
Tho listed as co-writer with his brother Christopher , my understanding is that Chris rewrote Interstellar, and I would like to see if Jonathan had a better story, because as interesting a film that was the narrative was a jumble. One thing about it , Foundation has absolutely zero T&A and a minimal of violence, unlike GoT which has erotica that GRRM wrote and even HBO could not do! (People tend to not notice that.) I think there has to be some restructuring , I watched the pilot for Man in a High Castle. Man! talk about sophisticated science fiction, that is almost all 'inner voice'. It was turned into a post-WWII dystopia 'action' , tho with the Dick odd-twist of the alternate universe ambiguity. Had a good reception and Amazon has ordered up a season. I don't know where they can go with it since Dick never wrote the sequels he had intended. Even then the intrigue of the novel it's abstract reality , I picture the dramatization going down hill. About the Nolans I tend to think that both of them are pretty clunky when it comes to things like dialogue and characterization but are much stronger with things like theme and story structure. Then of course, I never saw Interstellar which apparently doesn't do wonders for their reputation in any of those departments. While I love the Dark Knight trilogy a great deal, there are some absolutely shitty lines in those movies (everything from the guy driving the truck with Gordon in the chase in TDK, for example, saying cliché after cliché, "we're like sitting ducks", "what's that a bazooka?", "that is not good, okay, that is not good" etc. to something like, "you're pure evil," "I'm necessary evil" in TDKR). Now I haven't kept up with Jonathan Nolan's previous forays into TV, this is why I have some worries about what he'll do with the Asimov for HBO.
As for Foundation and how it will play into HBO's want for nudity in its programming, it's possible that that all could be shoehorned in somehow if they really want it enough, despite how sexless a writer Asimov is. But really from what I've gathered Westworld will already be including a "robot brothel", so I guess if it's going strong by the time the Foundation is made, they could let it do the heavy lifting nudity-wise. I do think that HBO pressures shows into including nudity though. Obviously for PR reasons they have to be cagey about all of that but I think it's pretty apparent that that's their MO as a network and part of their formula for success with certain viewer demographics. Not only does Neil Marshall's interview back in 2012 about his experience making "Blackwater" point to this being the case but Nic Pizzolatto, when asked about making s1 of True Detective, said that if it was up to him there'd have been no nudity in the show. Implying that that which was included was not his idea. Both of those seem to suggest that there are HBO executives who try to push or even force that sortof content into their programming. (Which I don't condemn really because I don't think it's compromised either show too greatly artistically...I mean, every network comes with it's own baggage and it's a helluva a lot better for a show to have naked people in it now and then than having product placement and commercial breaks! )
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Post by boojam on Jul 24, 2015 10:51:48 GMT
As for Foundation and how it will play into HBO's want for nudity in its programming, it's possible that that all could be shoehorned in somehow if they really want it enough, despite how sexless a writer Asimov is. But really from what I've gathered Westworld will already be including a "robot brothel", so I guess if it's going strong by the time the Foundation is made, they could let it do the heavy lifting nudity-wise. I do think that HBO pressures shows into including nudity though. Obviously for PR reasons they have to be cagey about all of that but I think it's pretty apparent that that's their MO as a network and part of their formula for success with certain viewer demographics. Not only does Neil Marshall's interview back in 2012 about his experience making "Blackwater" point to this being the case but Nic Pizzolatto, when asked about making s1 of True Detective, said that if it was up to him there'd have been no nudity in the show. Implying that that which was included was not his idea. Both of those seem to suggest that there are HBO executives who try to push or even force that sortof content into their programming.
That's my impression too, when watching 1st season True Detective I thought we really don't need the soap opera , but the nudity seems like it was frog marched on stage, which I suspect is a pressure from HBO since it's part of their signature. I don't mind as long as it's in context. Lord! the MPAA has bowdlerized films , for nudity, so much now that it effects financing of movies. I still puzzle of the complaints about GoT , there has been some gratuitous stuff, but much is well enough within context. George has more!, but then most viewers are not readers. I didn't hear much complaining about The Walk of Shame this last season, extended nudity there, I guess someone squawked but I didn't see it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 10:54:57 GMT
As for Foundation and how it will play into HBO's want for nudity in its programming, it's possible that that all could be shoehorned in somehow if they really want it enough, despite how sexless a writer Asimov is. But really from what I've gathered Westworld will already be including a "robot brothel", so I guess if it's going strong by the time the Foundation is made, they could let it do the heavy lifting nudity-wise. I do think that HBO pressures shows into including nudity though. Obviously for PR reasons they have to be cagey about all of that but I think it's pretty apparent that that's their MO as a network and part of their formula for success with certain viewer demographics. Not only does Neil Marshall's interview back in 2012 about his experience making "Blackwater" point to this being the case but Nic Pizzolatto, when asked about making s1 of True Detective, said that if it was up to him there'd have been no nudity in the show. Implying that that which was included was not his idea. Both of those seem to suggest that there are HBO executives who try to push or even force that sortof content into their programming.
That's my impression too, when watching 1st season True Detective I thought we really don't need the soap opera , but the nudity seems like it was frog marched on stage, which I suspect is a pressure from HBO since it's part of their signature. I don't mind as long as it's in context. Lord! the MPAA has bowdlerized films , for nudity, so much now that it effects financing of movies. I still puzzle of the complaints about GoT , there has been some gratuitous stuff, but much is well enough within context. George has more!, but then most viewers are not readers. I didn't hear much complaining about The Walk of Shame this last season, extended nudity there, I guess someone squawked but I didn't see it. I've added this qualification to my above post btw:
"(Which I don't condemn really because I don't think it's compromised either show too greatly artistically...I mean, every network comes with it's own baggage and it's a helluva a lot better for a show to have naked people in it now and then than having product placement and commercial breaks! )"
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Post by mattpeto on Jul 29, 2015 16:59:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 17:39:00 GMT
Poor Kit, he looks stressed in those last two. Obviously he's asking the guy or gal not to take the photo and of course the twat is going to disrespect him to his face. Rude fans haha! Is it just me or does he look skinnier than usual? Just me, the Mom, always looking to feed a kid. My son's jeans were a little loose when he came home last so I stuffed him full of homemade food and baked goods, LOL. I think he eats junkfood mostly. Kit's definitely in Belfast longer than 'playing a corpse' would require so at this point it's pretty obvious the jig is up as if anyone was surprised. I'm somewhat disappointed they didn't try to hide him away because they had to know this was going to happen and Kit can't be the one to have to police fans like that it just makes it all the more obvious. If one sighting at the airport was all we got then speculation could still run wild for quite a long time. We all knew this would be the result if they just let Kit go wherever he wants in Belfast. You can't really lock the guy up for months though, that's not practical either. Oh well. Poor kit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 18:34:05 GMT
If someone annoyed me and pushed a camera to my face like that in public transport, I'd look exactly like this. This is just rudeness.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 19:02:32 GMT
It seems Carice isn't being quite as open on her social media this year. Because she's in Belfast at the moment but she never even posted about it like she has in previous years. http://instagram.com/p/5uBZw0wcE5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 19:17:03 GMT
Well she caught a lot of media attention for some of her interview comments so she's probably trying to stay low-key at the moment haha.
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Post by Basil on Jul 29, 2015 19:26:21 GMT
Poor Kit. He's totally like: "Come on dude, don't do this. Give me the phone!" He definitely seems to have lost weight, but goddammit, he's beautiful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 19:30:18 GMT
^Yep. Poor guy. Cellphones have turned everyone into paparazzi sadly, so even if the press came to think him being back in Belfast was old news, there'd still be people taking pictures of him and the length of his hair specifically for the rest of the shoot. At least he probably got a pretty significant raise for s6 and s7. So that ought to make up for the hassle.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 19:36:52 GMT
It seems Carice isn't being quite as open on her social media this year. Because she's in Belfast at the moment but she never even posted about it like she has in previous years. http://instagr.am/p/5uBZw0wcE5 I imagine Carice and Liam drinking whiskey in moody bars in Belfast together.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 19:39:30 GMT
And I dig Kit's nerdy glasses. He looks like a way too attractive trainee teacher.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 19:39:39 GMT
It seems Carice isn't being quite as open on her social media this year. Because she's in Belfast at the moment but she never even posted about it like she has in previous years. I imagine Carice and Liam drinking whiskey in moody bars in Belfast together. Come to think of it, Liam hasn't tweeted about going to Belfast this year either, though we know from his interview info at SDCC that he was heading there and began shooting last week. So I guess everyone's on their tiptoes this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 19:41:55 GMT
These too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 19:54:23 GMT
Poor Kit, he looks stressed in those last two. Obviously he's asking the guy or gal not to take the photo and of course the twat is going to disrespect him to his face. Rude fans haha! Is it just me or does he look skinnier than usual? Just me, the Mom, always looking to feed a kid. My son's jeans were a little loose when he came home last so I stuffed him full of homemade food and baked goods, LOL. I think he eats junkfood mostly. Omg are you my mother? I can't tell you how often I get this from mine "you're too skinny", "you look anorexic" (I don't). So annoying.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 20:01:22 GMT
^It's either one or the other with mums, isn't it? When I was underweight for most of my teen years I never heard the end of it. And now that my body mass index is closer to 25 than 18, even though I haven't gained weight for a few years, I hear the opposite complaint. There's no winning.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 20:15:09 GMT
Poor Kit, he looks stressed in those last two. Obviously he's asking the guy or gal not to take the photo and of course the twat is going to disrespect him to his face. Rude fans haha! Is it just me or does he look skinnier than usual? Just me, the Mom, always looking to feed a kid. My son's jeans were a little loose when he came home last so I stuffed him full of homemade food and baked goods, LOL. I think he eats junkfood mostly. Omg are you my mother? I can't tell you how often I get this from mine "you're too skinny", "you look anorexic" (I don't). So annoying. No, I'm not your Mother but I could be a stand-in for yours if you ever come to the weird town of Austin in the scary country of Texas for a visit! I'll check to see your jeans size and make you eat a huge dinner until you want to pass out you've eaten too much! Skinny boys need to EAT! *Edit: Don't get too annoyed with Mom, she means well. Once you're grown and flown the nest, the only thing we can do is try to Mother you when you're around and we're always certain you're not taking care of yourself - which I'm quite certain you're capable of doing! haha.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 20:24:11 GMT
Just think of me as Mrs. S in Orphan Black! (sorry derailing GoT for one moment) ...
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Post by boojam on Jul 30, 2015 2:04:58 GMT
Did I see some posting about Rory Mccann Jerome Flynn being spotted at an airport?
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 30, 2015 15:29:20 GMT
I can't imagine any of the cast saying "no" to an 8th season, should they go that route.
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