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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 12:01:13 GMT
LF can lose his head in Winterfell at the hands of a maidensomeone he screwed over.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 12:14:18 GMT
Right - except Sansa's not in the Vale to marry Harry the Heir and I don't think that's going to happen on the show at all, do you? I seriously cannot see this poor girl being dragged off to the Vale where she will be lined up to marry yet ANOTHER dick-head of some sort or another. Enough is enough, jeezus cripes this poor young woman has been passed around worse than a prostitute at a bachelor party. If she needs to go to her own story, it needs to be a NEW story and not that shit. I'll finally lose it like sati if she goes back to the Vale with LF and marries that shithead HtH. I assumed he meant go to her own story once LF has invaded the North with his army, avoiding the marriage to Harry? Yeah this is what I meant.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 12:14:42 GMT
LF can lose his head in Winterfell at the hands of a maidensomeone he screwed over. First Ramsay must be killed and the Winterfell freed from the Boltons.
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Post by janicia on Jun 17, 2015 14:49:09 GMT
Propably something like @envie and @konradsmith speculated. I think Brienne will return to the Riverlands, where she'll meet Septon Meribald, travel with him, meet the Hound and possibly Jaime and then die. Maybe Brienne convinces Sansa to go south with her instead of north? Going north would be the obvious direction Ramsay would search since he assumes she'll try to run to Jon at the wall. If they head South, where would Brienne take Sansa that's safe? Riverrun? We have no idea what's going on there, but House Tully could at least provide a safe place for Sansa. They wouldn't likely choose the Vale/Eyrie since Littlefinger could have gone back there and I highly doubt Sansa will to back to him again. EDIT: Riverrun was under siege by the Freys in AFFC - I had to go back and look up where they left off when Blackfish escaped. Jaime was the one who negotiated the end of that siege and took Edmure hostage to Casterly Rock ... so if they actually have Jaime go to the Riverlands instead of King's Landing - maybe this could still happen in s6? Maybe this is how Jaime and Brienne reunite and help Sansa as a turnaround for the Starks? Then again, having her to back to the Eyrie would put her right back where she is in the books anyways. Littlefinger has to be removed first and foremost though. That has to end for it to move forward. In the show, I think the Freys have Riverrun now. As Brienne and Sandor discussed, there isn't anywhere safe for Sansa to go. Except the Vale. Sansa is surely furious with Littlefinger, but the only people that want Sansa to be alive at this point are Littlefinger, the Tyrells, and the Boltons, and the Tyrells would hand her over to Cersei if they thought it would get them out of their own problems.
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Post by janicia on Jun 17, 2015 14:50:21 GMT
Sansa and Theon bump into Littlefinger’s army. Littlefinger defeats the Boltons and takes over Winterfell.
The Boltons have a funeral for Sansa using Myranda’s body and a big cloak. Better for them that she be officially dead than at large. Roose reams Ramsay out for losing his wife. Ramsay tells Roose to shut up since Ramsay just won a big military victory. (It must have been deliberate that they showed Ramsay running around on the field but not Roose. I think leading the troops to victory will embolden Ramsay.)
After losing track of Sansa again, Brienne and Pod either end up in the Riverlands or at the Wall. If Stannis is alive, hopefully he makes it back to the Wall and takes the black. Brienne could be magnificent at the Wall with her Valyrian sword.
Jon and Melissandre go dormant for a while. Tormund either slaughters the night’s watchmen at Castle Black (sans Edd?) and takes over that castle or settles in a different castle along the Wall. Or maybe Tormund moves his people into Moat Cailin.
Davos goes with Tormund because Tormund has moppets. Or maybe Davos tries to leave with Stannis’ ships and gets captured by Euron.
I don’t think the northern lords will ever be much of a presence in the show. If Rickon pops up in season 6, I bet it will be with Tormund.
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Post by Nezzer on Jun 17, 2015 16:33:57 GMT
Would be nice to see the Northern lords, they have an amazing opportunity to introduce them, but why would they do it now if they didn't do it last season? Because Rickon is being helped by one of them, and they have to play a role eventually. With Stannis out of the way, they can now focus the Northern rebellion in the Northeners. And Sansa must have something to do with it because she also has to keep her agency
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 16:40:08 GMT
Would be nice to see the Northern lords, they have an amazing opportunity to introduce them, but why would they do it now if they didn't do it last season? Because Rickon is being helped by one of them, and they have to play a role eventually. With Stannis out of the way, they can now focus the Northern rebellion in the Northeners. And Sansa must have something to do with it because she also has to keep her agency Sansa's agency. Fuck I hate that.
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Post by Admin on Jun 17, 2015 16:47:13 GMT
Because Rickon is being helped by one of them, and they have to play a role eventually. With Stannis out of the way, they can now focus the Northern rebellion in the Northeners. And Sansa must have something to do with it because she also has to keep her agency Sansa's agency. Fuck I hate that. I think Brienne's absorbed the agency of every single female in the show. Other than Poison Ivy Ellaria.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 16:52:18 GMT
Sansa's agency. Fuck I hate that. I think Brienne's absorbed the agency of every single female in the show. Other than Poison Ivy Ellaria. What about Bad Pussy, Grumpy Cat and I-Always-Win?
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Post by Admin on Jun 17, 2015 17:36:14 GMT
I think Brienne's absorbed the agency of every single female in the show. Other than Poison Ivy Ellaria. What about Bad Pussy, Grumpy Cat and I-Always-Win? Oh yeah, fucking Ellaria's Angels
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 18:21:11 GMT
Would be nice to see the Northern lords, they have an amazing opportunity to introduce them, but why would they do it now if they didn't do it last season? Because Rickon is being helped by one of them, and they have to play a role eventually. With Stannis out of the way, they can now focus the Northern rebellion in the Northeners. And Sansa must have something to do with it because she also has to keep her agency Hmm.. I'm beginning to get quite skeptical. They could have spent some time with the Northern lords in S2, but decided to develop Talisa so it would be more shocking to see her die.
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Post by Nezzer on Jun 17, 2015 18:30:11 GMT
Because Rickon is being helped by one of them, and they have to play a role eventually. With Stannis out of the way, they can now focus the Northern rebellion in the Northeners. And Sansa must have something to do with it because she also has to keep her agency Hmm.. I'm beginning to get quite skeptical. They could have spent some time with the Northern lords in S2, but decided to develop Talisa so it would be more shocking to see her die. The Freys have to make a return at some point, and I doubt even D&D would skip something like the Frey Pies.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 18:31:12 GMT
Hmm.. I'm beginning to get quite skeptical. They could have spent some time with the Northern lords in S2, but decided to develop Talisa so it would be more shocking to see her die. The Freys have to make a return at some point, and I doubt even D&D would skip something like the Frey Pies. Walder Frey is returning for Season 6.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 18:46:26 GMT
Hmm.. I'm beginning to get quite skeptical. They could have spent some time with the Northern lords in S2, but decided to develop Talisa so it would be more shocking to see her die. The Freys have to make a return at some point, and I doubt even D&D would skip something like the Frey Pies. Sansa can bake a few pies....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 18:50:07 GMT
The Freys have to make a return at some point, and I doubt even D&D would skip something like the Frey Pies. Sansa can bake a few pies.... As long as she ends SOMEONE (evil)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 18:53:18 GMT
Sansa and Theon bump into Littlefinger’s army. Littlefinger defeats the Boltons and takes over Winterfell. The Boltons have a funeral for Sansa using Myranda’s body and a big cloak. Better for them that she be officially dead than at large. Roose reams Ramsay out for losing his wife. Ramsay tells Roose to shut up since Ramsay just won a big military victory. (It must have been deliberate that they showed Ramsay running around on the field but not Roose. I think leading the troops to victory will embolden Ramsay.) After losing track of Sansa again, Brienne and Pod either end up in the Riverlands or at the Wall. If Stannis is alive, hopefully he makes it back to the Wall and takes the black. Brienne could be magnificent at the Wall with her Valyrian sword. Jon and Melissandre go dormant for a while. Tormund either slaughters the night’s watchmen at Castle Black (sans Edd?) and takes over that castle or settles in a different castle along the Wall. Or maybe Tormund moves his people into Moat Cailin. Davos goes with Tormund because Tormund has moppets. Or maybe Davos tries to leave with Stannis’ ships and gets captured by Euron. I don’t think the northern lords will ever be much of a presence in the show. If Rickon pops up in season 6, I bet it will be with Tormund. Just a hunch here, but I do not think Littlefinger is ever going to rally an army. That was all bullshit. What is Littlefinger? A man who has risen to the top of the noble dung pile by lying his way there and outsmarting everyone else. He lied to the Vale about where he was taking Sansa and his intentions. He then lied to the Boltons about his intentions to raise the Vale (after telling the Vale something else) and then left Sansa as a present for the Boltons to keep them pacified while he went to King's Landing where he then lied to Cersei with an entirely different story about Sansa and the Boltons. You see where this is leading? He has zero intentions of actually going to war - he's not a war commander. He has every intention in getting the kingdoms to tear each other apart first. Chaos is a Ladder.
As for the rest, I do think Tormund has some part to play in things at the wall with the wildlings and left that out of my summary since I was answering Nezzer's 21 questions and honestly I have no clue what the wildlings are going to do other than settle the Gift as promised by Jon and then fight the Walkers when they come (and probably be slaughtered since they have no valyrian steel or dragonglass). Davos is such a wild-card - your ideas are as good as mine. He could go anywhere at this point but I hope they keep him in the story.
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 17, 2015 19:10:13 GMT
Maybe Brienne could convince Sansa to go back to the Vale? She could probably turn all the Vale lords against Littlefinger if she wanted.
I have no idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 19:24:12 GMT
Sansa's likely to stay in the North, given that LF's bringing the forces of the Vale there anyways. Now with Yohn Royce confirmed to be in s6, I think it makes sense that she'd turn the Vale against LF but she doesn't have to go back there to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 19:39:47 GMT
Sansa's likely to stay in the North, given that LF's bringing the forces of the Vale there anyways. Now with Yohn Royce confirmed to be in s6, I think it makes sense that she'd turn the Vale against LF but she doesn't have to go back there to do that. I'm curious why you (and most everyone) assumes Littlefinger is actually going to raise an army from the Vale? I guess I'm the only one that honestly does not see that happening at all. I wrote in more detail why I think that in my last post but it makes no sense he actually goes through with that. It was bluff and he will not be able to get the Vale Lords to march against the Boltons.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 19:45:03 GMT
Sansa's likely to stay in the North, given that LF's bringing the forces of the Vale there anyways. Now with Yohn Royce confirmed to be in s6, I think it makes sense that she'd turn the Vale against LF but she doesn't have to go back there to do that. I'm curious why you (and most everyone) assumes Littlefinger is actually going to raise an army from the Vale? I guess I'm the only one that honestly does not see that happening at all. I wrote in more detail why I think that in my last post but it makes no sense he actually goes through with that. It was bluff and he will not be able to get the Vale Lords to march against the Boltons. Because there's this prophecy about Sansa killing LF at Winterfell + Sansa propably goes to Winterfell in TWoW. Logical conclusion is that she goes there with LF's army. But I agree he won't be able to do it.
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